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(OR Rumours Rumours Rumours depending on where you are located! LOL)

Never.

That is the short answer to that question.

Yet the rumour mill is full force yet again. And I’m not saying that what is going around isn’t true, BUT until I see hard facts, evidence, it is a rumour. And since I’m here to bring you all Eclipse news — I’ll let you decide for yourselves what you want to believe and what you do not.

Malicious Mandy has blogged about what she has heard in regards to the Eclipse re-shoots. What scenes were filmed, etc -

This list is by no means complete, it is simply what I have been able to compile by speaking with various people “in the know” one way or another (directly or indirectly) and should I learn more I will edit/add. Three long days of shooting surely covered more than these scenes and if they were re-worked scenes or simply “lighting/colouring adjustments” I can’t say with certainty but will address later in this post.

Scenes:

-Tent Scene (Bella crawls into Jacob’s sleeping bag, banter between Jake & Edward)
-Pick Me (Jacob’s heart felt plee with Bella)
-Kiss & Punch (Jacob & Bella)
-Various Close up’s (Yes wig issues worked out for Bella, these shots are likely the lighting/colouring adjustments also)
-Some love triangle discussion (jealousy of Edward, persistence of Jacob, confusion of Bella, mostly at tent scene but some in Bella’s room of Edward/Bella)

I have heard there needed to be MORE Jacob/Bella in the film and deeper emotion with the two of them in scenes. Take that as you will.

I also heard due to being unable to get the “Meadow” set for a 2nd day (Another production was using the area) because they couldn’t get everything done in the first day, (again I don’t know but I imagine due to Robert Pattinson not being there) they had to try to shoot close-up’s of cast as if in the meadow (this reminds me of Catherine Hardwicke’s “meadow” but rest assured, it was only for close-up’s apparently so they will still have wide shots of the ACTUAL meadow outdoors from original filming in the summer says source)

Our FAVOURITE (<——- sarcasm ) Gossip Columnist, Lainey Gossip, also shares some gossip/rumours/drama to add to it all. You can read that bullsh*t here.

Take it or leave it guys. But please — don’t stress about!!!! Everything WILL work out. PROMISE!

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Category: Eclipse Vancouver Set, Rumor Control, Rumour Control

IloveyouEdward

Ive always wanted to go to UK.Actually I wish I was born there lmao.
That sucks but you've met him already at least.Living in canada there are no benefits he never came to my city :p. As long as robsten keeps coming to UK you have a chance
IloveyouEdward

Of course he is important to her.I'm not denying it read my comments not once I have said there's to much J/B or that I dont want to see them on screen , or I dont give a f*k about their relationship.Or that he isn't as important.

He's a big part of Bella's life I understand that.Even after she got married to Edward she still needed Jake in her life.
TaycobWolfPackMember

You did notice the deadpan and sarcasm at the START and END of that, right? But I have been to other Twilight communities and the overall consensus (that aren't pro-Jacob) is that this would be a amazing story if there was no Jacob. Just give them Edward and Bella cause it would make them feel SO better.

That second part is DELICIOUS because it's pretty much the truth. Without him in it, it would have been two books and probably forgettable for some. Maybe even written off as another story that can't hack it. But because Meyer introduced Jacob she got other, just as important characters and KEY elements to her story.

It is your PERSONAL OPINION. Because let's be HONEST here, what makes Edward MORE important than Jacob?
TaycobWolfPackMember

Are you talking to me or did you just mistakenly comment to me? Because your comment goes NOWHERE in which direction I am commenting on in THIS comment. Now, this might go with ANOTHER comment I made YESTERDAY throughout this thread but this goes NOWHERE with this one because it's pure ME being a sarcastic and deadpan comedian with IHTD. LMAO.

“No one was rude to Jake or bashing him” is like saying the sky is red on a daily basis when it comes to EM.org or any other nonpro-Jacob community.
willow45

Me too! Reading it and reading it and reading it and rea…..LOL
TaycobWolfPackMember

LMAO. I wish I had another one right now. People are so damn OVER SENSITIVE. It's working my nerves.

Aaw, that sucks. Well you are back NOW so that is ALL that matters. Good for you. I'm out for the summer cause I ain't taking courses but days off are amazing, too.

*Giggles* We are talking now. Snarky is amazing. Sarcasm is the best. Witty is pure deliciousness. Hmm, British. Me Like.
willow45

I would have been cool with that.
ancha85

Isn't it just sooo exciting!
I get chills just thinking about it!
I found out about it by googling “Eclipse Movie News”, which I do almost every day…(see how obsessed I am!) and it came up on a “Robsten” blog.
Also, did you see the new post here about the same thing?
Gawd! These people are so lucky!
What I would've given to be chosen! Wow…
ancha85

And Eclipse is my favorite book of all time, too!
ancha85

True, it just seems that at times you tended to discount him and his and Bella's relationship. If you didn't mean it that way, I'm glad!
ancha85

We are totally on the SAME page, chica!That kiss was HAWT! And the vision that she had of her future with him was soo beautiful, but soo sad, because she knew it would never be *tear*…Four pages of passion in one single kiss…Wow! SM ROCKS
ancha85

I somewhat understand where you are coming from Willow…It's just that I was so glad that Jacob was happy in the end (and no one can deny that he WAS happy, he didn't feel cheated or mistreated or abused, he just felt LOVE).
I just couldn't stand to see Jake's heartache anymore, without any kind of respite and closure for him. He was just hurting so bad and Reneesme brought him true happiness. We might not be totally thrilled with the way it came about, but the main thing to me is that he IS happy,and no one can deny that.
ancha85

Thank you, AE!The Saga just brings out so much passion in me!
Clare

It always amazes me what even a simple maybe-rumour like “there needs to be more J/B scenes” is doing to people on here. It's comments like this which spark off the arguments over Edward and Jacob otherwise everybody is pretty much dormant on the matter.

Personally I think Jacob and Edward are just as important as each other.

If Edward didn't exist there would be no depression for Jacob to help Bella out of. If there was no Edward it means no involvement with the Volturi and no final “fight” at the end of BD which means the wolves are not needed. No Edward means Bella wouldn't have asked Jacob about why the Cullens do not go to La Push etc. No Edward means no intense vamp/human love story. (If we take this further and said there were no vamps then there would be no werewolves because werewolves are triggered by the presence of vampires or something so no Jacob transformation).

Moving on…

If Jacob didn't exist who knows what would have happened to Bella after Edward left her (Laurent, depression, cliff diving etc). If there was no Jacob (and the other werewolves) then the Cullens would have almost certainly lost the fight against Victoria and the newborns. If there was no Jacob there would be no interesting twist on Bella and Edward's relationship. No Jacob means that Bella's choice would have been easy and there would be no test of how special Edward and Bella's relationship really is. No Jacob means the loss of a beautiful friendship between him and Bella.

I'm sure there is plenty more that people can add but these were just examples.

At the end of the day the Twilight: Saga is a series of novels designed to entertain us (and to toy with our emotions). Of course Edward and Jake are both as important as each other. I mean where would Bella be without either of them. Both Edward and Jake help make Bella a very interesting character (the protagonist has to be surrounded by drama). The fact that people are discussing (and arguing) about both E and J shows just how significant they both are.

As for the movies…Well let me just say that I have been disappointed with some areas which include both Edward and Jacob. I have to agree with some of the Team Edward's on the point that Edward and Bella's relationship has seemed so serious and gloomy that people forget why she even chose Edward. This absolutely does not mean that Jacob does not deserve to have his story told. Of course he does and that was what New Moon was for. Also I think in the movies Jacob is a little too tense and I would have preferred for there to have been more light-heartedness in the dialogue between J/B in New Moon.

I think in Eclipse there should be more of a balance. There needs to be enough E/B scenes and moments and J/B scenes and moments to get the story and emotions across correctly. Eclipse is about all three of them and it is important that all the characters get their chance to “shine” in the film.

It's not just E/B/J that I want. I want to see Victoria, Riley, the Cullen Clan, the Wolves etc have their moments too because they're very important as well.

I have my complaints but I still love the films regardless and hey at the end of the day not everything is going to be perfect and you can't please everybody (you have to remember that these are fictional characters and we should be more than happy that people are dedicating their time bringing them to life).
ancha85

Yes, for his sake, I am glad that he is happy and fulfilled, because all that really matters in life is that we are happy and that our lives have purpose.(Of course, he is a fictional character, but I love him like he was real.)
But you, of course, have the right to your opinion. The Saga does cause us all to be very passionate about it, but in the end, they are fictional characters…
ancha85

100% true, whether the “Jake haters” want to believe it our not!
ancha85

Well today we got some great news! The people who've seen the Rough-Cut of Eclipse for the Oprah show are RAVING about Eclipse, saying it's the BEST of the three!I am soooo excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
ancha85

Like minds think alike!
ancha85

Me, too! *tear*
ancha85

Girl!! You and me have GREAT taste! lol…
TaycobWolfPackMember

*Sighs*

Like I've stated BEFORE, if YOU (and others) think that is Jacob Black being happy and fulfilled that's perfectly fine. However, NOT everyone who loves Jacob LOVES the fact that he IMPRINTED on a BABY/CHILD (trust me, there are MORE fans on THAT side); no matter WHAT the explanation of it WAS. It was a INSULT, FOUL & WRONG for the character who you've READ for 2 straight books be OKAY with imprinting cause he finally got his “happily ever after”. Then for it to be on a BABY, of ALL things?!

Yes, they are fictional characters because IF this was real, Edward would lose his beauty by the time he reaches 30, Bella would be committed to a insane asylum and Jacob would have MOVED ON to someone who would have APPRECIATED AND PICKED him.
ancha85

*Sigh back*Like I'VE stated before… Jacob imprinting on Reneesme as a baby has NOTHING sexual or romantic about it! Period!He loves her like a big brother, best friend, protector or godparent.
And I am sorry, but YOU are wrong when you say that there are more fans on the side of Jacob being a “pedophile” (which is basically what you are saying, just not using that word). Anyone who has TRULY read and understood the Saga KNOWS that.Stephenie Meyer has explained it time and time again.
You are reading something into the Saga that is not there, and if I read into it the same thing, I wouldn't like it either. A 17 year old falling in love with a baby IS an insult, foul and wrong, but THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED!
VAMPLOVER ccc <3 my Twisters

hehehe I know,honey and I really miss it. *sniff* But it was a paps picture and i don't want to use their stuff. I'll find a buttonfly that's “legal' though. hehehehehe
TaycobWolfPackMember

Exactly! I would have LOVED to see ANYTHING other than that.
TaycobWolfPackMember

*Sighs right back*

So because it has NOTHING sexual OR romantic about it, I can't have a problem with it? Is that what YOU are saying? I should have THANKFUL cause he DID imprint? Because HE can be a “best friend, protector, or godparent” to that BABY? He could have done that WITHOUT imprinting. He ALREADY was a protector of her considering his brothers wanted to KILL HER & HER MOTHER. He was best friends (and more but not sexual) with Bella so she more than likely would have allowed Jacob to be APART of her life; half-bred OR NOT.

I didn't put pedophile in that comment. Get it straight. Go to some pro-Jacob places and THEN come back to me about the overall consensus from some TRUE Jacob lovers, not people who are Swiss or “I love Jacob too BUT ….”No, hardcore Jacob Black fans. I've haven't ran into a TRUE JB fan who HONESTLY thinks it's a good thing (the majority that DID like the imprinting crap is Swiss fans or fans of Jacob because of Taylor's body BUT hides behind the label of being a Jacob fan). Trust ME, if I want to say that Jacob becomes a pedophile when he imprints on that BABY, I would say it. As you can see, I don't MINCE words for ANYBODY.

For those who honestly pay attention to what Meyer has stated time and time again, you would realize she talks out of her ass when it comes to certain topics, this one included. I'm not reading into something that ISN'T there. It IS there. I can take it the WAY I want TO. I took it as wrong, sexual or romantic not included, for Jacob to IMPRINT on a BABY. A half-bred baby who according to Meyer and her flip flop words wouldn't even be his SOULMATE when it comes to what imprinting was ABOUT.
ancha85

Just a question…Why are you so angry?
After all, these ARE fictional characters and not something to be so upset about! And if the author of the books says something is right, then that is her world and it is RIGHT!
You don't have to like it, (which obviously you don't), but you shouldn't question my loyalty to Jacob, just 'cause I don't agree with you. Since the moment I read the Saga, Jacob has ALWAYS been my favorite character. He is sweet, kind, loyal, caring and beautiful, inside and out (and it is pretty offensive when you say that those of us who are not horrified by him imprinting on Reneesme only care about Taylor's body (puleez! Taylor could be my son! Ewww!), or are only “Team Swiss”, not really “Team Jacob”.And it is also insulting for you to say “only Team Swiss…”. There is nothing wrong with someone loving both Edward and Jacob, after all Bella does and so does Stephenie Meyer.
As I said, Jacob is my favorite character (and he is my favorite character of ALL TIME), but I love ALL the characters in the Saga.
No, you didn't put “pedophile” in your comment. I said that you didn't. But you sure as heck MEANT that. If you didn't mean that, you wouldn't be so offended that Reneesme is a baby and you wouldn't have said that Jacob imprinting on her is foul. Period.
You meant pedophile, even if you didn't say it. I DID get it straight.
And I really hate it that you are so disrespectful to SM. You have ever right to not like her or the Saga, but this is a fansite of her and the Saga, so when you insult her, you insult many of us.
You are free to come on this site any time you want, because it is a free country, but if you are going to get so upset that you have to disrespect the author and other fans, maybe your blood pressure would be better if you made ugly comments somewhere else, where they don't disagree with you.
If you don't like the way things happened, then just don't read the books, watch the movies or comment on fansites that are all FOR the Saga.
I am not angry at you at all, I just don't understand your anger.
TaycobWolfPackMember

1) I'm not angry. I'm NEVER angry. For some reason, the way I word my THOUGHTS and FEELINGS sounds angry. As you can see in the thread, I was PERFECTLY fine the other day interacting with OTHERS. I RESPECTFULLY disagree with some people and moved on. I wonder why is it that I can go from that situation and move on. Mighty funny.

2) Like I stated, Meyer talks out of her ass in situations and the imprinting is one of them. First it was “this is true love, it's to find their soulmate” then another instance with the same topic brought up on imprinting, “It's to ensure that the wolves have the strongest bloodlines”. This is just ONE instance in which I can call off the top of my head where she talks one thing ONE minute and talks another thing in ANOTHER minute.

3) If you feel I was questioning your loyalty as a Jacob fan, that's not my problem. I never said it. I just said SOME. Like I stated before, I can disagree with others and move on. I've done it BEFORE. Once again, don't put actions behind my words just like you are TRYING to do. The MAJORITY of people that I have ran into that like that coupling/shipper/whatever it is have been Team Swiss who could care less about Jacob OR those who only liked Jacob because of Taylor's body. Now, is all people like that who are ON those teams? NO. Hence, the reason why I said SOME.

4) I want to know how you respond to THIS one because it's going to be interesting. How can YOU tell ME what I MEANT? Do you know me? Have you EVER talked to me outside of EM.org in ANY form? No, you haven't. This is our FIRST time EVER interacting (and if it's the last, no love lost) so you have NO CLUE what MY words mean. I said that as a JACOB FAN, it was INSULTING, FOUL AND WRONG to have READ BOOKS of HIS characterization from MEYER and for him to imprint on that baby. I don't have a problem with Loch Ness, not one bit. However, when it comes to Jacob, that's when I have a problem.

5) Who is disrespectful to Meyer? She may have written it and I may enjoy it (to a certain extent) her because she did but a SPADE is a SPADE. She ain't no better than any other writer who has written or will write before. She can have people who enjoy her work, give her credit BUT still call her out on her wrongs. She isn't GOD. She isn't PERFECT.

You're right. It is a free country. I am going to post. I am going to post how I truly feel. I'm not going to walk on eggshells because it might offend someone because they don't feel the same way.

*Sighs* I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'm not angry. It's the way I decide to type or whatever.
twilightcherry

When you say dont worry people are going to worry. Bu, me nooo Im fine! not worrying at alllll! Not thinking of all the things that could go wrong. Noooo Im fine like everybody else. Dont worry about me people!
shortyrock1

Did any of you guys take into consideration that the reasoning behind Jacob having feelings (being in love) with Bella and vice versa is because of Bella's Ova (Ovum/Egg)? I had hoped in BD that Jacob would have imprinted on Leah, but I couldn't shake Bella's feelings for Jacob, when Edward was supposed to be her true love/soul mate..blah, blah, blah. I needed a logical explanation of the feelings that were between J/B. The only rational explanation for either of them loving each other is that Jacob saw something in Bella that he loved (Bella's egg – not yet fertilized to make Nessie) and Bella's egg (not yet fertilized to make Nessie) already projecting her feelings of desire/love for Jacob. Think about it – as soon as the egg is fetilized, Bellas' (Zygote to be exact) feelings become stronger and as soon as Bella gives birth, the mutual feelings of love and desire disappear, hence Jacob “imprinting” on Nessie and Bella no longer feeling the same way as before. This is the only way I can get through this novel and of course look back at the whole saga.
ancha85

Well it “appears” as if you are emphasizing the “pedophile” thing because every time you talk about hating the imprinting thing you always have to say “baby”, when you do it. Why do you always have to include “baby”, when you are talking about hating the imprinting?
Where I said “meant”, I should have said “appeared”. Because I can only go by what I see written. I'll give you that one. But I am sorry, you have been disrespectful in your post.

I understand that you don't like the imprinting, because it seems like it is taking away Jacob's free will.(Which love does to us too, sometimes. We often love people who we wouldn't “choose” for ourselves, because we feel a strange attraction to them, that we didn't expect. The difference between that and imprinting is that we CAN choose not to follow those feelings, and the wolves don't have that choice. I understand that part of your feelings.)
When you keep on saying that he “imprinted with a BABY”, where you emphasis the baby part, it “appears” that your main problem is Reneesme being a baby. I just don't want people to think of Jacob as a “pedophile”. I HATE when people do that, and I have to defend him when they do. It's just not right for anyone to think that of him, when it isn't true.
Now about disrespecting Stephenie. You have the complete right to say what you don't like about her writing and her story, but why do you have to cuss to do it? That is the disrespectful part. How would you feel if you knew she read your comment and you said that she “talks out of her ass”. Is it not possible to express that same thing without cussing?
And one last thing… You say I don't know you and am “assuming” what you mean, when I don't know you. Aren't you doing the same thing when you say that ONLY or SOME people who are not TRUE Jacob fans are O.K. with the imprinting? Aren't you judging people by what they say online, too? What may be “wrong” and “foul” to you, is not to a lot of other people who love Jacob. Please don't discount their feelings about him, because they don't agree with you.
ancha85

Well it “appears” as if you are emphasizing the “pedophile” thing because every time you talk about hating the imprinting thing you always have to say “baby”, when you do it. Why do you always have to include “baby”, when you are talking about hating the imprinting?
Where I said “meant”, I should have said “appeared”. Because I can only go by what I see written. I'll give you that one. But I am sorry, you have been disrespectful in your post.

I understand that you don't like the imprinting, because it seems like it is taking away Jacob's free will.(Which love does to us too, sometimes. We often love people who we wouldn't “choose” for ourselves, because we feel a strange attraction to them, that we didn't expect. The difference between that and imprinting is that we CAN choose not to follow those feelings, and the wolves don't have that choice. I understand that part of your feelings.)
When you keep on saying that he “imprinted with a BABY”, where you emphasis the baby part, it “appears” that your main problem is Reneesme being a baby. I just don't want people to think of Jacob as a “pedophile”. I HATE when people do that, and I have to defend him when they do. It's just not right for anyone to think that of him, when it isn't true.
Now about disrespecting Stephenie. You have the complete right to say what you don't like about her writing and her story, but why do you have to cuss to do it? That is the disrespectful part. How would you feel if you knew she read your comment and you said that she “talks out of her ass”. Is it not possible to express that same thing without cussing?
And one last thing… You say I don't know you and am “assuming” what you mean, when I don't know you. Aren't you doing the same thing when you say that ONLY or SOME people who are not TRUE Jacob fans are O.K. with the imprinting? Aren't you judging people by what they say online, too? What may be “wrong” and “foul” to you, is not to a lot of other people who love Jacob. Please don't discount their feelings about him, because they don't agree with you.
TaycobWolfPackMember

LMAO. I did take that in consideration but it's merely as a joke for me.

If I honestly take it into consideration seriously, someone's ovum calling to someone's inner wolf is HOT, TRUE LOVE and AMAZING.
/ends sarcasm

But even with that conclusion, it would be, in theory, wrong. Jacob was in love with Bella way before he became a wolf (or strong passionate crush). His wolf genes had nothing to with him liking/loving Bella.

But yes, I've stated before, I don't have a problem with Jacob imprinting, it's WHO he imprints on that I majorly have a problem with. Even with me being a JB fan, I really did think that JL would have been each other's “saving grace” with their heartbreak and if that was the case, I would have been fine. They didn't even need to imprint either.

Might I add, for imprinting to have been so rare, it sure did become the thing among the Pack for the Saga.
TaycobWolfPackMember

I am SO done with this. I'm not going BACK AND FORTH with the SAME crap when we have STATED what we NEED to say. It's done. It's over. You said what YOU had to SAY and I've BEEN disagreed. I've BEEN MOVED on. Just like I am SURE that what I've STATED has been stated and YOU'VE disagreed. However, you KEEP putting ACTIONS behind MY words that AREN'T there.

It does take away his free will. I know that you interpret it differently but that passage I put a WHILE ago on Jacob's feelings during the imprinting is black and white. Did you not see that he said it took AWAY everything that MADE HIM JACOB AWAY? How would that NOT be taking away his free will? He said “my name, my self – disconnected from me in that second – snip, snip, snip – and floated up into space.” So, you mean to tell me that when someone says their SELF has been disconnected and floated away into space ISN'T free will BEING taken away?

FYI, if Meyer can't handle someone saying what I said (which is QUITE MILD compared to what I have seen about her), she shouldn't have entered a business such as this. Ass is not being disrespectful. You want to know disrespectful to Meyer?

“Meyer is a c*** s*** that should have given up after Twilight because what she wrote was pure s***”

Statements like THAT is being disrespectful and simply downright CRUDE & RUDE. What I've stated is something that ANYONE who BOTHERED to notice could go back and find.

I'm not just PULLING these people out of THIN AIR. This is PUBLIC things that I've ENCOUNTERED. Once again, I'm NOT discounting their feelings about him UNLESS they've discounted their feelings themselves. Unless you've SEEN what I've seen, you wouldn't feel the way I feel. Until you do, don't tell me what I am doing or discounting out. So you can reply to this or whatever, know I'll read the notice and move on because this is a point of RIDICULOUSNESS now. We OBVIOUSLY don't agree, so why go back and forth?

*Sighs heavily*
ancha85

Just so angry…
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You liking the Barbie pink, yes fluffy as well that would be awesome
Best therapy in the blooming world being on here, and it's free!!!!! LOL
Now where did I put my meds lol
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No way. If that were the case then wouldn't he have some affinity for Edward as well? Since his genes are in Reneesme too. Now THAT would be some love triangle. :O hehe
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