The recasting of Victoria in Eclipse has quickly turned into quite the debate, with Rachelle LeFevre being replaced by Bryce Dallas Howard.
Summit has just issued a press release in response to the statement that Rachelle LeFevre issued earlier today concerning the casting of Victoria.
We at Summit Entertainment are disappointed by Rachelle Lefevre’s recent comments which attempt to make her career choices the fault of the Studio. Her decision to discuss her version of the scheduling challenges publicly has forced the Studio to set the record straight and correct the facts.
- Ms. Lefevre’s representatives were advised as early as April that THE TWILIGHT SAGA: ECLIPSE was expected to start shooting in early August.
- If Ms. Lefevre was, as she describes “passionate,” about being part of THE TWILIGHT SAGA, we feel that she and her representatives would have included us in her decision to work on another film that would conflict with the shooting schedule of THE TWILIGHT SAGA: ECLIPSE.
- It was not until July 20th that Summit was first informed of Ms. Lefevre’s commitment to BARNEY’S VERSION, a commitment we have since been advised she accepted in early June. Summit had acted in good faith that she would be available to fulfill her obligations both in terms of rehearsals and shooting availability for THE TWILIGHT SAGA: ECLIPSE. We feel that her choice to withhold her scheduling conflict information from us can be viewed as a lack of cooperative spirit which affected the entire production.
- Furthermore Ms. Lefevre took a role in the other film that places her in Europe during the required rehearsal time, and at least ten days of THE TWILIGHT SAGA: ECLIPSE’s principal photography. This period is essential for both rehearsal time with the cast, and for filming at key locations that are only available during the initial part of production.
- Contrary to Ms. Lefevre’s statement, it is simply untrue that the Studio dismissed her over a ten day overlap. It is not about a ten day overlap, but instead about the fact that THE TWILIGHT SAGA: ECLIPSE is an ensemble production that has to accommodate the schedules of numerous actors while respecting the established creative vision of the filmmaker and most importantly the story.
- The fact remains that Ms. Lefevre’s commitment to the other project – which she chose to withhold from Summit until the last possible moment – makes her unfortunately unavailable to perform the role of Victoria in THE TWILIGHT SAGA: ECLIPSE.
What do you think? With this, has Summit settled the qualms you had about Rachelle LeFevre being replaced in Eclipse? Does this adequately explain her replacement?







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*cough* damage control *cough*
Haha… now that I've actually read it… Dang, It sure makes LeFevre sound like a roach.
Complete BS Summit!
You should be ashamed!! NOT CLASSY AT ALL!!!
oh c'mon, summit SUCKS!
What, of coure they are saying its her foult, maby it is maby not!…But I would still have her as Victoria, to bad thats not going to happen….After that statement i don't think so!
She will be missed, she is the perfect Victoria!
I totally agree…it's complete damage control. They know how mad the fans are, so they're trying to cover. Honestly, I understand where they are coming from…SLIGHTLY…but excuse me if I think they could work it out. Especially knowing how the fans feel about her.
Harsh…they could have cleared those things up with a little more dignity and a little less finger-pointing.
I don't care who said what.
All I care about is having RACHELLE as VICTORIA.
Get your heads out of your asses, summit.
I wish Summit had never gotten ahold of the Twilight Saga.
THIS IS JUX PLAIN STUPID SUMMIT…seriously!……Rach was SUPER HAPPY and EXCITED WITH ALL OF THIS!…
I REALLY DO NOOOOOOOT SEE HER AS THE LYING TYPE!
GRRRRR
You should act bette than this!!
she DOES NOOOT deserve this!!!
UGH…aren't you guys ashamed!…….
**inhale…exhale…inhale…exhale**
grrrrr
hey the screw it changing one of the main characters in eclipse, now they have to mannage it as good as they can, but no one can replace rachell!! shes just victoria in our minds!!!
i think they're trying to make themselves sound good IMO
I feel like they're blaming Rachelle. But I understand about the whole, “She knew way early about Eclipse filming in August and she had to go and accept another project”. So what? If Summit wanted her, they would have found a way to work it out! If it was Rob, well well well, they could have done anything to keep him in!
I just hope no one tries to take this out on Bryce Dallas Howard. Let's be nice to her, OK?
No doubt! They are probably just now realizing how much they pissed the fans off. I can't say this has never been done but I can say it's never a good thing to re-cast a character when the fans love the original actress. And make no mistake, the fans DO love Rachelle, she is such a sweetheart!
I do have to wonder tho how much this other movie would cut into the prep time for Eclipse. There will be a lot of stunts in Eclipse so there would have to be a LOT of training to pull them off flawlessly in the movie.
Considering how busy Rob, Kristen, and etc's schedules, I can understand where summit is coming from. Doesn't meant I have to like it. Rachelle will be missed! I am not shocked at all though that summit issued a statement to throw her under the bus. So not classy!
bring Rachelle back!!
Totally agree!!!
lol
Bryce really had nothing to do with it. I think it was Summit's fault because they could have worked something and, but instead, they decided to recast Victoria. Yeah, so I agree. Be nice to Bryce even though I know it's going to be really difficult.
Heh, be nice to the interloper! ;oP
Ok, I do suppose it isn't her fault. I just hope she comes in with the right attitude and does a bang up job. If not, she's going to catch it even worse from the fans.
Truthfully if passionate about this job and knew what job would probably be better for her, meaning which is more popular. She should have dumped the other movie and stayed with the Twilight Saga. In the long run she would probably have a better carrer with all the Twilight movies under her belt. And on top of that Eclipse is the biggest movie for Victoria so why the heck would you even think about doing another movie right before that and knew it would overlap. STUPID!
Yep. Sounds like they've drawn a line in the sand. The feud has begun. D@mmit all!
Couldn't have said it better myself.
im so ticked they fired her
and yes they fired her no matter wht they say
I wouldn't go that far. They've done a great job up until about 24 hours ago.
i think summit is just trying to wash their hands if they where able to accommodate Cam Gigandet in Twilight why can they accommodate Rachelle Lefevre for Eclipse is only 10 days!!! it just dosen't make sense
I HIGHLY doubt that Summit wasn't told about this other commitment until July 20th. That's what Rachelle's manager and agent are for, and there's no way they'd have jeopardized her Twilight commitment by not informing Summit. Second, there are many ways they can find out about other commitments even if she had not informed them. Third, there's no way she could have signed the contract to do Barney's Version if she had a conflict without getting the ok from Summit to allow her to do those 10 days. Lastly, and this is the one that stands out for me……they are claiming they found out on July 20th. So, you're telling me that they contacted Bryce Dallas Howard, asked her to join, negotiated a salary, got contracts together, and got them signed in 8 days? That's some serious hustle if they did pull that off. AND that's assuming that they told Rachelle on the 20th that they would not allow her the overlap and that they were letting her go from her contract.
This press release just makes them look worse. I'm afraid I have to lean toward Rachelle on this one.
How could they have steady replaced her in only 10 days sorry but I'm calling bullshit. Obviously she did not know this was happening 7 days ago at comic con.
Considering all the e-mails I'm sure they received today… you bet your bum that they are in damage control.
This finger pointing “It was ALL HER FAULT” is so childish. It makes me like them even less! My Summit Boycott will continue based on this.
I don't think anyone will be intentionally…but ultimately…she's caught in the cross fire and there's gonna be some collateral damage.
Very true. All of it.
Eh..to each his own. Personally, I don't think Summit has done well since the beginning.
Was that just summit cossing the treaty line of the newborns? Yeah I think so and I do believe that Rachelle was commited to the Twi series, Summit doing a little CYA (cover your a$$) statement? Bring Rachelle back or stop the series she is “Victoria” just like Taylor is “Jacob” they brought him back……
Does it sound like they made even the tiniest effort to work with her? To me it doesn't. It sounds like they just went “You actually made plans to be in a movie with another company. Oh well, we'll just replace you!”
This is totally ridiculous! Rachelle is awesome and now they are trying to make it look like the whole situation is her fault! They are just pulling damage control because all of the fans are pissed and if she would've have know I'm sure she wouldn't have let it happen!
NooooooOOOOOOOooooOOOOOOO! That makes me sad, but I know it's true. I'm sure Bryce is feeling the pressure already…it's going to be hard, if not impossible, for her to please the fans, even if she does give an incredible performance, which I totally expect. She's a wonderful actress.
At this point, I'm just going to be sad at the situation. I WANT Rachelle to be in the right, but there's no way of knowing. There's fault on both sides, I'm sure.
I'll just be a little upset that Summit got a little snippy in the apology. But I don't think I could bring myself to sign a petition. This fight's just gonna get messier, and Twilight CAN and WILL go on without Rachelle!
We should all just forget about this and look at more shirtless pictures of Jacob and Edward!
I agree with you on everything.
Also, Summit should have known about Rachelle at least auditioning for that movie. It's almost like everyone knows each other in the Hollywood show business, so Summit must have at least heard some rumors. Haha, the last one is the best! Everyone at Summit must be super heroes or vampires because they managed to find someone to replace Victoria, talked about the salary and the small details surrounding the movie, got her to sign a contract, and came up with a speech to protect damage control. I wonder how that managed to happen?
So Summit definitely knew way ahead about Rachelle's other movie.
i still think summit disregarded rachelle. whether just summit or both is at fault, i still want rachelle and only rachelle as victoria. bryce is a GREAT actress, but if rachelle still wants to be victoria, then she should be! no ifs, ands, or buts.
It's a shame that the Twilight Saga put Summit on the map and they act like it didn't. If it weren't for Twilight and the fans, Summit wouldn't have the profits they do now and will have in the future Twilight films. Blaming Rachelle to save face is disgusting and they should be so ashamed of themselves. I suppose they thought if they released that statement that it would make people less mad? I don't know about the rest of you but it makes me even more mad that they are bashing Rachelle when she has been such a supporter of anything Twilight related.
Shame on you Summit execs! You are greedy and wish you never had the rights to the Twilight Saga!
Cleverly and maturely played, Summit. Either way, we all know Rachelle is the perfect Victoria, and I think Summit made a huge mistake by replacing her with someone who certainly is a great actress, but not the fans vision of the devilish Victoria that we all love, but certainly hate. Poorly played, Summit. We're all looking forward to Eclipse, but the fact that Rachelle is no longer involved, makes the storyline that we all love so dearly, dim just a little bit.
I agree. If they were trying to make themselves look better after releasing this, they definately didn't to me. It's just like they're trying to convince everyone that it isn't THEIR fault…when it really kinda is.
It's not cool that their trying to throw her under the bus!! She did nothing wrong, she couldn't live forever off the Twilight saga. She had to do other movies. Summit should have done better with the time. Their just trying to seem like the victim and do damage control!
hm.
i'm not sure how i feel about this. i really hate the idea of someone else playing victoria now, especially since this is the last movie she's in. really, they couldnt have just let her shoot the photos seperate from the cast?
i just dont know. i dont like this bryce woman, though
Exactly. If i'm not mistaken…Barney's Vesion has been listed under Rachelle's IMDB page for sometime now. I realize that it's a fan run sight and not always exact but how could Summit claim NOT to know?
Whoa…I really don't think Summit would lie about dates. That's too easy to disprove.
It makes sense that they wouldn't tell Rachelle about the recast on the 20th because at that point they probably weren't sure they could make it work. They threw it all together as quickly as possible and then let her know
Bryce is probably going to have a mental meltdown on the site of Eclipse. lol Somehow I feel as if she'll never be accepted into the Twilight cast like the other members have. She'll always be the person “who replaced our beloved Rachelle”.
Also, Summit is somewhat taking advantage of the fans. I know we don't have a say in the movie, but can't they at least try to make the fans happy. If we're happy, Summit will be happy because there will be money involved. I feel that we can't just let them replace Rachelle without letting Summit know how we feel about this whole situation.
lol. Sorry about that. I just really needed to say all that stuff.
BOOOOOO… poor form!! If they really wanted to make a tiny effort, this wouldn't be such a big deal. Rachelle wouldn't have been blind-sided a week before rehearsals began. And this “rebuttal” sounds like a child pointing fingers.
I am officially boycotting all future Summit Entertainment productions.
Summit can kiss my ass. I've hated them ever since Twilight first came out. They almost ruined Twilight and if it wasn't for such a dedicated book fan base the movie would have likely flopped. We over looked all the flaws of Twilight because why? The CASTING! It was spot on. They tried to fire Taylor and it didn't work so why the hell do they think this is a good thing to do? For 10 apparent days?
I'm seriously thinking of boycotting. This is crap.
Couldn't agree more. There is more to this story than what is being told. There is no way they re-cast that part that fast… either Summit or Rachelle is LYING!
There are contracts that are negotiated and signed. Even with a slight scheduling conflict, I wonder how Summit was able to veto Rachelle's contract so quickly, and so close to filming. What about her “rights”?
If Rachelle is being totally truthful, you would think she would have grounds for a lawsuit!!??
Summit Entertainments response was nothing finger pointing.
Truth be told.. Twilight Fans are EXTREMELY passionate about the story and EXTREME in numbers. NO other movie has a chance in outshining the amount of cash this series is making (and will make).
That being said… who out there is going to refuse to go and pay to see Eclipse just because a different actress is playing Victoria…….. ummmmm NO ONE! We'll all line up and hand over fistfulls on money in theatres and merchandise REGARDLESS! Summit knows it… they can basically do whatever they want and get away with it!
how are they going to get this new howard girl trained for eclipse?? it's goint to take more than 10 day to prep her! Rachelle have stated in diffrent interviews that she have start to prep and train for eclipse already!
Wow…Summit's claws are coming out now. If this was their fault, obviously they are not going to admit to it. All I'm saying is….they sure did find a replacement for her really fast.
*cough* LIARS *cough*
i kinda understand. i mean she would be missing rehersal time and filming time thats crucial to a film that has such a short amount of time until its released. they have less than a year to get it all together. BUT then again, victoria is a very important role in eclipse and recasting her role for the movie in wich shes the most involved is a HUGEEE mistake. THey should deffinatly figure out something and like resolve it. they simply cant just have someone else, and if thats the case then im looking forward to see how Bryce Howard will portray the role.
Whoever wrote this new press release sounded pretty emotional about it. The people at Summit feel like they got the shaft, too. Don't get me wrong–I totally hate that this happened, but the people at Summit obviously feel like they got the shaft, too.
And there's NO DOUBT that Summit knows what kind of backlash this would have. They must have a REALLY GOOD reason for doing this. They're a company: they wouldn't risk this without cause.
Damm thats a good conclusion, totally agree with you ! Summit messed up, badly !
There is not way she would jeopardize her part in Eclipse is the best and biggest part she could get on the saga!
Who knows who's to blame here. I lean more toward Summit for the blame, because I just get the impression Rachelle is genuine.
I don't know – I doubt it'll work itself out. I'm bummed, because it sounds more and more likely things won't work.
I do feel sorry for Bryce, though, not sure she knows what she's getting herself into here! Hope she's not bashed on too hard.
Wow, the Volturi descended on Rachelle. Yikes
Nope.
I'm with other readers who mentioned earlier that Summit worked with Cam quite a bit during the filming of Twilight — while he was working on another film.
Summit didn't try hard enough to work with Rachelle. This press release REEKS of privilege. I'm on Rachelle's side, and always will be.
That's true, but it really s*cks! Lets just hope they don't ruin the movie!
That's a good point! They did replace her really quickly! I guess while
Rachelle was working hard on promoting at Comic con, $ummit was finding a
replacement! Grrrr!
I'm so sad about this,:( lets hope they don't replace anyone else. They better not, I will be beyond mad if they do!!!!!
Exactly!
it prob. could of opened more doors.
You go mschecklet!!!
It's just CYA all the way!!
might be that the one or two scenes victoria's in can only be filmed in that first two weeks of filming? i dunno its the only thing i can think of. i wish we'd get to hear all the details but i doubt we will
AMEN.
SOMEONE SEND THAT INTO SUMMIT! LOL.
But if Summit announced that Ron Howard would be directing Breaking Dawn or any other films from Summit..I don't think anybody could be nice to her.
wow. at first i really wasn't sure what to think about the recasting, but this makes me mad. Summit TOTALLY screwed up.
What's CYA?
OMGGG how old are the people at summit??? REALLY??? my 10 year old brother can conduct himself better than they can!!! summit all i can say to you is this: get your heads out of your a$$es, act your age, realize that we dont care about your childish comebacks at rachelle, were all gonna be on her side, and just HIRE HER!!!! just becuz you say its her fault doesnt mean we are going to want her to be victoria any less! >:(
I know this is off the subject but I was wondering what “Unicorns” means. I feel stupid asking but see it constantly refered to in other posts.
I don't believe a single word of it…
Is just a bunch of crap… excuses without sense at all…
Clearly they're trying in vain to convince us that it wasn't their fault…
(Yeah! sure, and we still suck our thumb…)
Cover your A*s
Agreed. It seems like they're just pissed that someone finally spoke out against them in an open and honest manner, rather than using the age-old “It just didn't work out.” Kudos to Rachelle for being honest.
Oh lol I should have known that.
It just really seems like Summit can dish it but not take it. And considering they're not exactly squeaky clean on the “screwing the Twilight series” radar, I have almost no reason to trust that this is the whole story.
Im calling some serious Bullshit.
I'm trying very hard to try and not unleash my full rage on the subject.
Actually, Summit would totally lie about dates. I wouldn't put it past any company, entertainment driven or not, to lie about something like that. Because if Rachelle's camp decided to dispute the date….and they are banking that her team won't out of fear of Summit backlashing against other clients they have or losing contacts in the industry…… Summit could very easily claim they never got that message, email, whatever. Barney's Version has been on Rachelle's IMDB page for over a month now. You can't tell me that I can find out she's got another commitment, but Summit couldn't find that out until the 20th of July. That's complete bullsh*t.
I'm not saying they would have told Rachelle they were recasting on the 20th, but if they only found out on the 20th, as they state, then they were only discussing the date overlap for 8 days…..while on the side, they were somehow contacting Bryce, negotiating pay, getting contracts, and having her sign them. My personal opinion, they knew about the other commitment. Summit altered the start date of filming for Eclipse…..maybe it was intentional, maybe it was just lucky for them. They used this date change as an excuse to recast Victoria for a bigger name, and as some sites are reporting, for less money. Although, I can't see Bryce being that much cheaper. (Bryce made a million for Spiderman 3, so I'm assuming much more for Terminator:Salvation) This was not Rachelle's doing. This was all Summit.
WELL WELL!
I'd be happy to enlighten you(:
first is first,
how do you feel about fan fictions? hmm?(:
Yup I know. They like to move people around, like directors, etc. They just sound like corportations all over. screw over the little guy to cover their own a*s.
haha totally! i hope they realize that twilighters are still going to be emailing and writing and calling about rachelle….honestly i think they think we are retarded first they come up with “oh yeah there were scheduling conflicts” and now they think that we dont want her in the movie b/c THEY say its all her faults they are so stupid….LOL rachelle is awesome!! i hope she fires back at this press release! =D
I like some of it. I read one with Nessie & Jacob that is cute and RIMR is sending me the link to “WA” tomorrow.
*applauds*
I say again, AMEN.
woo, your intense!
CAN SOMEBODY GET THIS LADY A DRINK?!
lol
Maybe Bryce will see all of these negative comments and back out. I would really hate to be her right now, knowing that all the Twilight fans want Rachelle back.
But, as much as it sucks, we know Summit doesn't care. They know we will go and see the movies regardless of whether Rachelle or Bryce plays Victoria. So they don't care about how much we complain. They are going to do what they want because in the end they will still get our money at the box office.
OMG AND who's to say they wouldn't have replaced her anyway? They've replaced directors AND actors for every single Twilight movie so far. Summit expects Rachelle to not accept any work outside of the Twilight films but how is she supposed to stay employed when clearly the contract she signed is one-way, and in Summit's eyes she and every other non-Kris-non-Rob actor are expendable.
Mannnn this bugs me. Summit – this is like strike 37, dudes!!
So… if they spent 8 days pulling strings to get Bryce… that means that they didn't make any efforts to keep Rachelle. Just sayin'. If they had even considered making an effort to keep Rachelle, then they REALLY had to hustle to get Bryce.
LOL I sort of hope she does back out. I just know how embarrassed that would back out.
I personally don't like her as an actress in any role she's done, but this isn't about her. This is about Summit.
OH! well there ya go.
D
If you don't mind a diff. edward and bella,
some strong language.
some serious smutty and lemony stuff.
READ WA!
and you'll learn all about Unicorns! (:
I wont tell you what they mean! you must read! (:
everyone here mostly adores it!
I think its great!
I love the Edward
I'm quite happy reading the books and waiting for these movies to hit HBO. I'm older than a lot of people here. I have 1000 other things I can do while waiting for these movies to hit cable. I'm so irritated by this that I REFUSE to spend money on anything Summit Entertainment does. Merch, movies, nada. I'm a very principled person and I hold a grudge.
You're impressive. You seem to really understand what's going on behind the scenes.
Did you send any emails into Summit?
btw, WA has nothing to do with the story line of Twilight. All human.
Yup don't hold back!!! I can only see this chick as the one that kissed Toby Maguire in Spiderman 3. Ugh! don't like the visual.
They see dollar signs and Rachelle went public and that is a no no. The good thing for her future is that everyone will remember her name now.
Should help her career. Doesn't help Summit. LOL.
Someone else mentioned that it also might have something to do with Summit wanting to suck up to Ron Howard so that he'll maybe direct BD.
Of course that's just another fan's speculation but if there's any truth at all to that, I'm going to freaking scream.
Ron Howard's a lovely person, I'm sure. But I don't want Richie Cunningham creating Renesme. Christ.
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Maybe Bryce is represented by Ari Gold from Entourage. hahahahahaha
I am probably going to get yelled at but I don't doubt them as much as everyone else. I mean I do not think that a recast was all that needed, but I do think Rachelle may have had a hand in her own downfall.
I think that so many doors are opening for them now, and she knows this would have been her last movie with the saga, I think she wanted to strike with the iron was hot and still stick my Twilight. But all in all she lost her cake before she could taste it.
I think summit could have been a bit more mature and maybe tried to reason with everything, but they are trying to get the movies out fast for us, so maybe it just wasn't possible. I do agree with them when they said, if she was truly committed she would have given up that role for this one.
hopefully Bryce will pull through and be awesome. I wish Rachelle the best of luck.
Cool! I can't wait!
I will have to turn my daughter on to it. She is 25. She kept yelling at Edward in Eclipse to give it up already!!
I am an Edward fanatic!! Want more. Will have to see Eclipse even without Rachelle just to see how they set- up for Breaking Dawn. That is why the Featherheaven. Love that scene.
When you put it that way… they REALLY REALLY sound like toadstools.
“Go promote a movie you're not gonna be in.”
oh now it turns into a game of he said she said!
Summit you still suck! You knew the fans loved her yet you failed to accommodate. I doubt she withheld the information and even if she did you didn't have to be such a$$es.
Questions for you… If she had told you would you have worked around the schedule to accommodate it? Because I still think you would have been utter a$$es and still said 'no' so whether or not she told you makes no darn difference right?
The fact that you failed to try and work around it just shows how the success of the saga has gone to your frikkin' heads and all you're concerned about is making money.
You suck summit you really bloody too. I said it before and I will say it again….
ROT IN HELL YOU SCREWED UP PIECES OF SH!T!!!!!
Yeah this isn't exactly Ron's area of expertise. I love a lot of his movies but this just isn't his scene.
His last was Frost/Nixon.
There is the Michael Sheen element there but that is where it ends.
I think they are trying to look good to the big guys in Hollywood. More money is all this is about.
Ok… So in the production of Twilight, wasn't 'James' also working on another film and only had like five days to film his scenes in the movie, so they 'catered' to him by filming all the scenes of the movie he played in first? So why, in the name of blood and bones, can't they do the same thing with 'Victoria'. Seems to me like they wanted to stir up the fans and get them all riled up so they would stop hounding the sets and watching bootleg previews online… like that would ever stop us, but, I can see where they may be coming from.
Bring back the Red Head! She is what Eclipse needs. I don't know much about the 'replacement' that Summit has selected/hired/bribed… whatever.. But I do know that if the 'originals' aren't in the movie, it won't be the same… and that will show at the box office when the time comes.
Come on Summit, wake up! Sign her anyway and get this silly notion out of your head! 'Victoria' is one of the bad vamps and it won't be the same without her!
Here is what I think……they say that they have to accommodate the cast as a whole. So that basically means that Rob and Kristen's scheduling are more important than hers, which is true. But I am still disappointed. I'm sure there is still a lot untold here and I'm sure that Summit and Rachelle probably will not being doing any films together soon……..
Well that will be different. Will have to read it to see what it is about. Now you have me curious.
I pretty much agree with you to….I really hope Bryce doesn't ruin it for me.
Darling name! I hope you find an equally lovely avatar to go with your name.
Awww… I just saw a video clip on AccessHollywood.com and they were discussing Taylor losing his role for New Moon. Rachelle was praising him for handling the question so well because “[she] would crumble!”
SAD!
Good job not spoiling it for her. When she reads it, it will be especially meaningful.
I hate when people spoil stories, so I commend you for taking the high road.
*stands and applauds*
Well this sucks monkeys, couldn't both side come to an agreement, I'm believe Rachel more not once did she say they told her, at least Taylor got a heads up, Rachele got nothing.
stole the words right out of my mouth.
Just took out all the curse words.
I realize that these productions are now multimillion dollar productions and there are a lot of people to consider, but the abrupt way this was handled and the raw emotion that is showing through in Rachell's statements lead me to believe there is more fault on the part of the studio. I have heard a million theories, but the “bottom line” seems the most plausable. My thoughs are if you start a series of movies you must keep the same characters throughout especially if they are main characters. In the grand scheme of things 10 days is not very long, I feel that there could have been ways around this, but the effort to work on the problem would have been too great.
Rachell has been robbed of the moment to die on screen in a role she brought to life.
Bryce Dallas I'm sure is a wonderful person and a talented actress who is going to get some serious and undeserved backlash from all of this. I truly feel for her and the reactions she might get from the cast, the public and the media. She is caught in a situation not of her making and doesn't deserve the BS that will inevitably come.
If it is possible summit should bring rachelle back to finish victoria's part and cast Bryce in a Breaking Dawn part. There are dozens of vamp parts up for grabs it seems to me she would be perfect for some of the irish vamps.
thats so heartbreaking!

post it everywhere so people will see!
and hopefully see the TRUTH.
summit is SCUM!
Thanks! But you guys are killing me now!!!!
I haven't seen any disparaging comment against Bryce. I think most people realize that she is merely a pawn in this game of cat and mouse.
Summit blew it – Rachelle called them out – Summit is trying to cover themselves now.
*hands lady a drink*
(Since I have nothing intelligent to say after that. LOL)
Ooh..
*eyes brighten, adds little turquoise beach umbrella*
Summet is being dumb and is dumb! I can NOT belive this!
Yes me too, it's an extreme pet peeve of mine.
I actually prevented myself from watching the new Italy clip :O Just to make it that much better in theater. Hopefully no one will scream >_>.
Can I really be applauded though?
Look at me! Spreading the SMUTT around! LOL.
you are just going to have to find outt

Meany! LOL
I hate waiting!
i Understand what the conflict with the whole scheduling thing is.. but i still think Raachelle should be given a chance. I Will be Very Dissapointed in Summit, if they officially Re-cast her for someone else. i think she should be given a choice, to either do the 3rd movie: Eclipse, OR Do the other filming in europe for 10 days. Give her a Brake. shes an AMAZING VICTORIA.
x) LOL.
thanks 4TW. Your a Doll! lol.
oooo, turquiosee <3
favorite color.
I'll take a vodka tonic with a lemon and lime please! LOL!!
Sorry if I seem too intense. It bothers me when a production company or a television network treat their audience as if they are idiots.
She was exactly how I pictured Victoria and she was amazing in Twilight! They lost a brilliant actress! I think that Summit is just saying that so they do not look bad and I think that Rachelle did the right thing by saying something! I also think they are going to regret it because Twilight fans WILL NOT BE HAPPY!!!!! You can be sure of that!
I agree with you on all accounts
Ooh, MY fave color too.. (um. besides emerald green)
Perhaps when the drink is finished we can use the toothpick to stab Summit repeatedly..
*sees SMIU's expression*
Yeah, I know it won't KIll them, but come on.. it has to hurt a little..
LOL
YIKES!!!
It's gonna get ugly! I hope she doesn't get blacklisted
Summit is certainly showing its lack of experience and savvy. Shame on them! Twilight fans deserve better. Of course Summit is taking advantage of the fact that we love this story enough to pay big money to see anything Twilight related, they don't give a s*** about the story or the characters. They have made hundreds of millions of dollars from this franchise after one of four installments, and still don't have enough respect for the fans to honor their contracts with great actors we love. Nothing against Bryce, but switching actors in lead roles ruins movies. I wish a REAL studio had picked up the rights to Twilight from the beginning (no offense Stephenie, but they are not worthy of your work). I am MAD!!!
my goodness people. this is a movie. these are actors. we are not replacing our family members. there is so much that goes on behind the scenes that we are not privy to. we will never know the full story. I am sure that Summit did not make this decision arbitrarily or rashly knowing what is at stake to the franchise. having seen bryce in other movies such as, The Village, I know she is a very good actress more than capable of stepping into victoria's skin. Let it go. It is a done deal. I am pleased that they ,at least, got a actress of quality and experience that I believe will not disappoint us.
Shame on you Summit! Victoria cannot be replaced! I want Rachelle Back!!
i think twilight kept summit from drowning….thats all im going to say
Wow summit released the biggest load of bull ever…they should have known the fans would be P.O'd I personally think that the other actress is cheaper and Summit didnt want to pay lefevre a lot of money…
*looks around*
*whispers* I agree with you.
As much as I loved Rachelle as Victoria, she has to hold some responsibility too. Really, I blame her manager and agent. She should have cleared it with Summit before accepting the offer on Barney's vision. I kind of agree with Summit. I'm sure for them to reschedule everything just for her would cost them millions.
As for Summit rearranging for Cam and not for her, Twilight was no where near the popularity or the budget range as Eclipse. Twilight was more of a low budget indie movie.
*ducks*
*waits for tomatoes*
Don't hate me! I still love Rachelle! That's Hollywood for ya!
Wow I am shocked at this 'comeback' statement. They slam her as if she wasn't in this huge movie that made THEM money. Rachelle was the greatest advertisement they had, always saying nothing but great things about the movie. I saddens me to see them throw her under the bus with this statement as an attempt to win back the fans with this conflict.
Its almost like, “Wait twilight fans! She didn't let us know on time, She didn't do this and that! It's her fault!” Very childish…
Hmm, your right,
Maybe in the eyes… that might do it!
toothpick em to death I say!
*raises one toothpick in the air*
WHOS WITH ME?
LOL.
I'm shocked they thought a statement like this was going to win back any fans. It actually made a lot of them more upset.
summit can just kiss a**! they have no clue what they are doing! all they want is the $$$! they dont give a crap about us! we should start a riot and bust down their doors and say “we DEMAND that you put rachelle back out there for victoria in eclipse!” if they think that THIS will get them more money they are wrong!
if the movie is filmed without her then i probably wont see it. they couldnt just do what they did for cam?
*gets out pitchfork* angry mob!! we NEED an angry mob!! stupid summit… *sticks tounge out*
OH MY! SHE'S HARD CORE! LOL
*me and 4tw find you a drink*
you've earned it!
Oh no don't apolagize!
I completely agree with everything you said.
I just cant post something that long without going newborn vampire and letting slip severe curse words O_O
lol being honest. xD
there trying to excuse themselves for having this replacement even take place. not knocking Ms. Bryce Dallas Howard in any way she is a good actress however when your dad is Ron Howard it's very easy to get a part you desire.
bottom line the true twilight saga fans want Rachelle Lefevre as Victoria plain and simple. this is just like how it was when they almost replaces Taylor. this is BS Summit and you know it.
I think the comments that Summit made were rude and insensitive and made them look very stupid and immature. They should be more professional!! It's not a tit-for-tat kind of a situation. Rachael said what happened, and rather then give their input, Summit Entertainment completely insulted and put her down. It seriously made them (Summit) sound like they were in high school! Read between the lines, people! Summit is trying to cover their asses after making the wrong decision about recasting the role of Victoria. Rachael wasn't mean or insulting in her comments, just shared her feelings. Summit came back with a response that attacked her and her character. Rachael IS Victoria! She looks exactly as Stephanie Meyer described Victoria in Twilight, especially with that hair. I'm incredibly disappointed in Summit's decision to recast the role, but even more disappointed and even a bit disgusted of how they responded.
write to summit!!!!!!!!!!!!
EFeig@summit-ent.com,
NKirkpatrick@summit-ent.com
VMayer@summit-ent.com
Wyck@templehillent.com
Paul@pcommgroup.com
RFriedman@summit-ent.com
PWachsberger@summit-ent.com
BHayward@summit-ent.com
DGarrett@summit-ent.com
RHohauser@summit-ent.com
RFay@summit-ent.com
SNickerson@summit-ent.com
Dear Summit,
It has come to my attention and my fellow beloved Twilight Saga fans that a decision has been made by your company to replace Rachelle Lefevre as Victoria in the upcoming Eclipse movie. We believe this is a terrible mistake as Rachelle has embodied the character Victoria from the beginning and has embraced the entire Saga and all of the fans of the series. This is not to take away from Bryce Dallas Howard as an actress but instead to point out the absolute importance to keep an actress who has rightfully earned the role and has performed it with professionalism, excitement, and obvious admiration for the character. It has always been evidently clear in interviews how important the role of Victoria was to her and to her fans.
This is a major oversight by Summit and I hope that you take the chance to reconsider this decision since Rachelle will ALWAYS be Victoria to the true fans of Twilight.
for ruining the continuity as they have,
and for greatly disappointing the fans,
summit WILL recieve huge collateral damage.
i hope all other script/book writers withdraw their brilliant texts from summit.
this was a bad decision.
there is no way any of this could have been organised so quickly.
they must have known about the clash, they're basically movie-making giants now, and i (an average australian teenager) knew over a month ago.
this is ridiculous and summit should be ashamed of themselves.
I certainly made me more upset its like did they actually think pointing out all of her flaws in the process makes them any better for dropping her and quickly recasting her with a bigger named celebrity? (no disrespect to Bryce Howard).
If she went to all the trouble to put the disappointed comment in the press that means she still wants the role and in any case a compromise can be made. Summit should put its HUGE ego aside and work this out for the bigger better. Really now, are they in fourth grade, work it out like adults with responsibility to the fan base.
Wow. Wut summit said just sounded like a bunch of BS to me!!!
this is just as bad as them almost replacing taylor.
they only did it for ron howards brownie points.
UNCAST MS. BRYCE DALLAS HOWARD!
If you can replace Rachelle LeFevre easily, can SUMMIT be replaced that easy as well?
SUMMIT DOESN'T FCUKING CARE ABOUT THE FANS.
They don't. Okay, they just don't.
Their statement was so damn childish. So ridiculously I-M-M-A-T-U-R-E.
Their statement made me hate them more.
Their statement did not help at all.
If they're trying to set the record straight and “correct” the fans, then they just proved themselves very unprofessional. (No matter how they use so many big words just to brag how “accomplished” their company has been.) I mean seriously? SERIOUSLY? Is Summit making this a “burn” or “comeback” thing? Because that's just very improper and unethical, to say the least.
NOTHING CHANGED. Sure, Summit gave another press release. And when I read it – when I fcuking read it -, nothing changed. It was just the same exact words that you would expect to come out of their money-makin', scamming mouths. PURE BS.
You know what Summit? You know what I wanna say to your damn company?
When you say these kinds of things, a Twilighter sheds a tear and dies of utter frustration. WE ARE FCUKING DONE PROFESSIONALLY.
THAT'S IT.
And you know what else? When we go watch Eclipse on June 30, 2010, we are gonna hate every single second of scenes where Rachelle Lefevre is nowhere to be found. Not that I have anything against Bryce Dallas Howard………. Wait, actually I do… but that's not the point since she can just go kiss my a-! ANYWAYS, Summit. Go dig yourself up a hole because you're gonna see some more hate mails.
I really don't know who to believe when it comes down to it…I really liked Rachelle as Victoria, and it does seem really odd and random that the part was cast so quick if Summit was just told about the conflict…..Then again, Summit would really have no choice but to recast as fast as they could since filming is going to start VERY soon you know? All in all, it's disappointing because Rachelle was great and it will be weird to see another Victoria after she's already been in two movies…but guys, there is really nothing we can do so just chill and enjoy the franchise because before you know it, the movies will be done and all the excitement will be a memory…JUST HAVE FUN!! ^_^
It doesn't seem like Rachelle was really warned about this. A week ago (3 days after Summit says they were informed of her 'conflicts') she was at Comic Con promoting New Moon and talking about Eclipse. It leads me to believe that she wasn't aware of their choice to ultimately recast her.
They are trying to make it seem like she chose to play one of a Barney's THREE wives, in a role that only requires 10 days of filming… over the playing the final FIGHT (and death) for a character she has already put 2+ years into portraying and developing in scenes that will require WEEKS of filming, training, etc. She has spoken with such passion about Twilight Saga and playing Victoria. I just can't believe that she'd walk away. I'm sorry, but I just don't.
I'm just not buying it. If they can find a new actress, work out the legals and make public press releases about a new actress in one week… why couldn't they look into working around Rachelle's “conflict” in the 4 weeks they had before filming?
the statement seems really harsh towards rachelle…..summit is trying to look like the good guys and make rachelle look like its her fault….honestly i dont even like the new girl….and eclipse is the most important novel in terms of victoria's character…..its just rediculous….i think summit should have looked bakc towards the past experience in trying to recast jacob….stupid summit… -_-
I have so many wrds 2 say that it is hurting my brain n it prob wouldnt fill this whole page, but if u guys want 2 try…cuz it ouldnt hurt if we did…i and some other fansites hav found some links to write n email summit! I cant say anything else cuz i will go out of my mind….
Summit Entertainment
Address: 1630 Stewart ST, Santa Monica, CA 90404
Phone: (310) 828 4132
Administrative Contact :
Tseng, Mimi
summitent@EARTHLINK.NET
2308 BROADWAY
SANTA MONICA, CA 90404-2916
US
Phone: 310-315-6047
Fax: 310-828-4132
EFeig@summit-ent.com,
NKirkpatrick@summit-ent.com,
VMayer@summit-ent.com,
Wyck@templehillent.com,
Paul@pcommgroup.com,
RFriedman@summit-ent.com,
PWachsberger@summit-ent.com,
BHayward@summit-ent.com,
DGarrett@summit-ent.com,
RHohauser@summit-ent.com,
RFay@summit-ent.com,
SNickerson@summit-ent.com
Quite frankly its leading to were the vulturi need 2 b involved! The Twiuniverse can do it!!!
If they replace Rachelle then when you guys go and watch Eclipse, just BOO loudly when Bryce part come out
wink
a petition is online SIGN IT!!! ;o)))
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/rachellei...
I posted recently about the topic but I have been reading some stuff, alright a lot of stuff, in regards to Bryce Dallas Howard that I want to comment on.
A lot of fans are posting comments like the one above me, saying to boo when Bryce comes on or something to effect. I think that just makes YOU ALL SEEM MEAN SPIRITED. She is an actress to…OF COURSE WE ALL LOVED RACHELLE, but if you you were told summit was recasting, wouldn't you maybe want a chance to become a part of what the Twilight franchise has become? DON”T BLAME BRYCE, BLAME SUMMIT!!
I believe that Summit was looking for an excuse to recast Victoria. But I also think it wasn't too smart of her to give them that reason. The cast seems to think of each other as family but Summit doesn't share their feelings and has no problem dumping cast and directors. Summit has short handed and under estimated the Twilight Saga from the start. They gave the first movie a pathetic budget…I mean, Edward drove a hatchback for jezz sake. And would it have been so much for them to come up with a couple thousand to buy the Cullens nicer clothes. They are supposed to be filthy rich. And they look like they shopped at Kmart. I am not even going into the “Sparkle thing.” They have also under estmated the fans loyalty, not only to the book but also to the cast that worked so hard to make the Twilight movie better, despite a small budget and chopped up script. Unfortuntely, it'a also true that we will still go see the movie even though they recast the part of Victoria. I wonder if Ms. Howard is making less money. You know that is all summit cares about. Lets hope they keep Rob and Kristen ……I wouldn't put it past them.
Katherine, Rachelle, who is next? My bet Nikki Reed or Elizabeth Reaser.
This is crap! Bring Rachelle Back! This is Crap! Bring Rachelle Back!
Rachelle is Victoria – Final!!
Sorry Bryce but you can't fill Rachelle's shoes!
Summit better grab a clue….and reinstate Rachelle!
I'm not watching it with Bryce…..PERIOD!
This is crap! Bring Rachelle Back! This is crap! Bring Rachelle Back!
Please see comments on the New Moon site in addition to those posted on this site.
i want Rachelle as Victoria im so sad
amen sista!!!!
CHECK THIS OUT EVERYONE!!!!!
You know what I just remembered….I read an interview with Rachelle like two days ago where she was talking about her New Moon stunts, and about how EXCITED SHE WAS TO FILM ECLIPSE….She even mentions the timing conlfict!!! hmm wonder why she would be excited if she wasn't planning on filming it…..
…….let us ponder…………Keep pondering……….
MAYBE BECAUSE SHE WAS SUPPOSE TO FILM IT AND SUMMIT SECRETLY RECAST HER FOR SOME MYSTERIOUS REASON???
here is the link for interview:
http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-7-18-the-tw...
I agree with everything you've said, especially about casting Bryce Dallas and negotiating for everything. It takes time, and this just makes them look even worse.
Not to repeat myself, what I said on NMmorg. or everyone else here, but the thing is it seems Rachelle didn't know this.
They planned this a long time ago, this is just one more reasong for me to believe that.
I agree with you. In Twilight, they had to accommodate Cam's schedule because he had another commitment. Why can't they do that with Rachelle? It's just 10 days.
There is no way that Summit re-cast the role in only two or three days. One of them is lying. I really want to believe Rachelle. When the news was first reported that she was being replaced, the way that the news was given made it seem likie a mututal agreement. Like Rachelle had chosen to do another project so Summit had to replace her. Now that the news has been given that Rachelle didn't actually want to leave and Summit replaced her without her knowing, I'm pretty pissed at Summit. They know how much the fans love Rachelle, and they also know how angry we'd get from them replacing a cast member when we all thought they were going to replace Taylor. They should have definately told Rachelle that she had to choose one of the prejects to do, and if she didn't want to do Eclipse, THEN they'd replace her. By the sound of Rachelle's statement, Summit took it that because she wanted to do the other project, she didn't want to do Eclipse. To be honest, I don't think Summit wasd truthful to her or gave her a fair chance.
Sorry Summit but I do not buy into your explanation at all. Judging by the amount of replies, noboby does. I'm afraid savvy media statements is not going to rectify this unwelcome situation for you. Summit – you are a dissapointment and should have communicated with Rachelle personally and not through representatives. The fact that Summit did not pause to reconsider how this would affect the future outcomes for Eclipse and Breaking Dawn, only proves that they are not at all concerned about the opinion of loyal fans.
Summit is a bit naive if they think I'll pay money to go see Eclipse. I'll just wait a week and watch it online…that's how I watched the first Twilight movie. There are plenty of other sources for seeing the film. And if this is Summit's attitude…I can probably hold out for the movie to be On Demand or on video…an casting change this late in the game can't bode well for the rest of the franchise.
Not only did they have to do all of that in 8 days, they also had to decide to replace Rachelle. Surely that must have taken some time? If not, and it was such an easy decision to get rid of her then Summit clearly don't care very much about the actors/characters or the feelings of the audience.
I think they've made a big mistake, but i agree with a lot of the other posts that it probably won't effect their takings, which is a shame, as I would be more than happy to see some sort of backlash against Summit for this!
ok this is stupid for the simple fact that shes in the movie for what a couple minutes??? and she DIES so how long could that take??? unless maybe they show her running in the woods or something stupid in which it could prolly be a stunt double anyways. they should keep rachelle tht other girl sucks and she looks nothing like her.
Please don't kill me…. I am over it and I think the new girl will slide into role just fine. Although I hate when characters change, I think Summit at least found a good replacement.
It is important that the filming gets done on time so that the movies can be finished before the cast starts looking to old. They have very tight shooting schedules to keep to in order to keep the ball rolling.
With all the actors having signed on for other projects I can imagine it was difficult enough to schedule the filming. I am kind of mad a Rachelle now for signing onto a film that would interupt her filming of Eclipse. That really was a stupid move on her part. Especially considering we all knew that the shoot schedule was established a few month ago.
I'll miss Rachelle, and I think she is great as Victoria, but I blame her for this one. But overall, as long as Edward, Bella, and the rest of Cullens stay the same I will be fine.
if it was rob or kristen they would have worked it out.
To be fair Ron Howard is an excellent director. I have no doubt that he would make a fantastic Breaking Dawn. However, if Summit sign him on to direct now it will be like admitting that's why they cast BDH.
Exactly…. They have a tight schedule and 10 days is a lot of time to miss, especially when your character is one of the important roles of the film.
Rob has to shoot Unbound Captives when he is done with Eclipse. They dont have time to wait for her.
100% true right there… no-one is going to sign up for a 4 book/film series and then go and sign onto some small time film with out asking Summit if its possible…. it jsut wouldnt happen unless she really just didnt give 2 sh*ts about the franchise…. umm not likely haha!
Don't apologize. You're totally right.
And I wish you weren't. It seems actually that the audience doesn't mean a lot to them. We bring in the money, so they don't mind to please us or whatever. And they also treat the people they work with as if they are nothing. Though, I'm sure, they would have reschedule if we were talking about Rob Kristen or Taylor.
Well, keep on being too intense. Reading your posts help me to unwind!
I think it's just as likely that Rachelle(/Rachelle's agent) would withhold that information as leverage. It's not Summit's job to check imdb everyday–they rely on their employees to give notice, just like any other company. Rachelle's team may have been thinking that by withholding information until the last minute, they would force Summit to reschedule for her, but their plan backfired, if that was the case. They were probably thinking, like you, that Summit wouldn't try and rush some deal with a new actress. But they did, because they were angry.
I'm just saying it's possible.
This whole thing majorly bites…..
*pun slightly intended*
They sure came out with this rebuttal fast….
it kinda makes sense but it sucks still!
in twilight they worked around Cam Gigandet's schedule by shooting the ballet scene first cuz he had already been signed on for another project. i don't see why they could not have done that for Rachelle, especially since they said she was missing rehearsal time and some picture shoots! not like she was missing anything major. do that stuff later for her. i bet she would have been very well prepared and studying her lines and stuff for Eclipse while on the set of her other movie. bad move on summit's part. very bad move! they have a lot of angry fan regardless what went down. you should not recast after the first 2 movies have certain characters in them already!
You know.
When I first heard about this, I was mad at Rachelle.
Then I read Rachelles comments about it, and I was mad at Summit.
Now I'm middle grounds, reading some of the things Summit posts makes me mad at Rachelle and mad at Summit.
Rachelle could have easily told them when she found out. Then they would have accommodated her.
I think the issue they are saying about accommodating her now is the fact that some of the places they are scheduled in to shoot are probably only available one or two days.
As an actress signed on with a contract, it is her obligation to inform Summit about all her career related timings….
But, at the same time, Summit could have reacted a lot better to the situation.
Its kind of like they started to act childish… and still are.
But it is understandable from both sides….
I agree, to the T, with you.
It is a both side is guilty sort of deal.
Rachelle from withholding information, and for accepting the other role as the main role…
Summit for recasting her (seems while behind her back) and having a replacement – posting it all over the news before telling her – and then acting like it is 100% entirely her fault.
Both sides are guilty, and both sides will most likely suffer a little for their guilt.
How many fans are going to be happy that Victoria was changed? Howard doesn't even look (anything) like Lefevre!!!
Lol.
I am debating if I actually want to see Eclipse now.
It is my favourite book in the series, I love the story during it.. But to replace one of the (I would like to say Main – because she is the whole climax thing for the story) characters, kind of destroys the feeling and build up.
It reminds you that Twilight, New Moon and Eclipse are in no way connected. It destroys the idea of it being its own world. It takes away the… reality of it.
If they chose someone who looked like Rachelle, that would be fine..
I'm torn!
http://tinypetition.com/RachelleisVictoria
There is a petition you can sign to try to get Rachelle back, if you wish..
Baloney!
I think Summit wanted to attract more non-twi fans to watch the movie…So they recast with a more well known actress…
In all honesty..
I'm not to interested in Eclipse anymore.
Knowing that one of the (dare I say it.. main? – because of her part in the war and climax) characters has been changed.. it turns me off from the movie.
I want to see it, but at the same time I am not looking forward to it as much.
Lol, that sounds right.
“What, you mean you are working for another company?…………. you're recasted.”
Why is it always like this when something like this happens?
Blaming begins. This is so freaking frustrating!
This response sucks. Pure accusations. Lies.
I hate hate hate it.
If you have to lie, you should at least keep your lies simple. Or no one is going to believe you.
Lack of efford shines through.
Summit = bunch of immature covards and creedy liars.
They don't care about fans or actors. All they care about is money, money and money. Making money out of things that people love. That's just sad!
Why this had to happen to Twilight saga? So not fair!
Summit and Twilight saga were a bad combination from the very beginning.
ROTFL… that was a good way to wake up… *pppppppppppppppfffffffffffffffttt* bursts out laughing at the image of threatening summit with a drink umbrella pointed upsided down. I'm sure they'll be running scared. But then again… if we ALL carry them.. how can they remain calm in the face of thousands of angry fans holding fuschia, turquise, and sunshiny yellow beach umbrellas??
I was reading some prior interviews for Rachelle LeFevre, check this one out:
Q: So do you know what you’re doing next? Do you have anything you’re working on?
“No, I have a couple of things sort of in the mix right now that it looks like I’m going to get to do. One of something in between this and “Eclipse” but it’s a scheduling thing and so nothing is confirmed yet because you have to be available for the third movie.”
Interview can be found at: http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-7-18-the-tw...
Anyhoo, this interview was done July 20, 2009. This means that last Monday, Rachelle knew about the possible scheduling conflicts.. does that mean Summit knew about it, too?
Didn't the Tonner company just reveal the new James and Victoria dolls based off of Cam and Rachelle? If I were Tonner, I'd sue Summit, no one will purchase that doll if she is not Victoria through the series.
Summit really does not give a sh*t about the fans. They cared about lining their wallets, not pushing any dates back or rearrange scheduling to keep the Twilight Saga train on track for maximum profitability. It wouldn't surprise me if everyone is expendable to them because they know their built in audience will see the movie regardless. It's a sad sad day in Twi-Country.
*comes out from hiding in the bushes*
JCullen81, I thought the same thing, too!
Whatever happened- there are always two sides to every story. Eclipse starts in less than a month, we've just got to take what's been given to us and be appreciative for the rest of the amazing cast who have stayed on–
I agree with everything that was said, that this totally sucks. Summit is a bunch of idiots and all they care about is money. They way they treat their actors is complete B.S. That being said, I figure it could be worse. At least they are not replacing main characters, like Edward, Bella, Jacob, Carlisle, etc. I refuse to let Summit's stupidity ruin my love for these books and movies. I will still go and see New Moon and Eclipse and I will probably be just as obsessed with Eclipse filming as I am with NM. Sucky situtaion, yes. But I think I can move past it and accept that Summit is just a bunch of money-hungry low-lifes. If they ever consider replacing Edward, I will hunt them down!!!
It's a pissing contest no matter how you look at it…..only Summit and Rachelle's team know the truth and what we are told is a third story. Is it possible that Rachelle's team didn't tell Summit, sure it is and who knows, maybe it's Rachelle's management's fault that this has happened and they're convincing her that it's Summit's poor decision to fire her over a 10 day filming overlap…..
I personally don't care either way and would only hit the ceiling if any of the CRITICAL actors are replaced. If they replaced a Cullen or Bella, Jacob or even Charlie, I'd FREAK!
It looks to me like they didnt want to make amends to their filming/rehersal schedule simply because she was 'replaceable'. You can be damn sure if it was RP or KS they'd have made changes to said schedule.
She, in Summits eyes, just wasn't important enough… Or maybe they were intending on finding a replacement anyways and this gave them the excuse they needed?
I am disappointed on both ends. Because its two completely different stories or explinations for Rachelle being let go….i'm not sure what to believe. I will say that i am sad to see her go i thought she portrayed Victoria perfectly and since shes been in Twilight and New Moon its unsettling to see how a new actress will play Victoria. But i'm sure that David Slade and Summit are going to do their best not to disappoint us with Eclipse.
Where's the positive engergy people!!??
I completely agree. I liked Rachelle as a person bc she was great to fans; however, nobody in here knows anything about the film making process… I'm sure scheduling is a nightmare with such a large cast and you can only accommodate to a certain degree. Maybe they could not change the film schedule due to Rob/Kristen/Taylor's schedules; and therefore had to cut Rachelle. I fault both sides for this. I believe more people are attached to Rachelle as a person rather than as the character Victoria (she only had like 5 min in Twilight). I honestly think BDH will be just fine as victoria. I just think this is an unfortunate event and it sucks, but the show must go on because at the end of the day it is just a business. I just want Eclipse to be done well, regardless of who plays VIctoria because first and foremost I am a fan of the world SM has created.
Twitter Petition Sign here — http://tinypetition.com/RachelleisVictoria/
1. As has been pointed out, it takes more than a couple days to recast. Summit obviously has been looking into recasting for a long time, much longer than they want us to think by this statement.
2. Yes, I'm sure Rachelle was advised as early as April that Eclipse would film in August. But, I've also heard that David Slade very recently rearranged the filming schedule. Perhaps she hasn't known about the overlap for as long as Summit would like us to believe. Plus, as someone already stated, she did mention a couple days ago that there was an overlap. If she didn't want Summit to know, why would she state it in an interview.
3. Rachelle is one of the most visible and fan friendly of the entire cast. She gives regular twitter updates and does all sorts of events to promote the Twilight franchise. Can that be said about other cast members, such as Nikki Reed (I love the girl to death, but we barely see her at any events).
4. How much would it hurt to push the release date of Eclipse back a month? Let Rachelle do her quick shooting of the other movie, THEN rehearsals and such can start. I know they are trying to do the movies quickly seeing as the cast is aging, but honestly one or two months is not going to make much of a difference. I'd be more than happy to wait until July or August for Eclipse to come out if it meant that Rachelle was Victoria.
It is NEVER a good move to change cast in the middle of a movie or show. Obviously sometimes circumstances dictate it must happen, such as when Headmaster Dumbledore was recast in Harry Potter due to a death. But honestly, it took more than one movie for the new actor to truly become the character we had all grown to love. The Twilight saga doesn't have multiple movies for Bryce to become Victoria; she has one shot. That's why I feel it's an incredibly heartless and idiotic move for Summit. They are ruining our beloved Saga. Watch out, one of the Cullen clan might be next.
“pissing contest” —> ROFL!
I agree with you! I also think it is SO sweet that a vast majority of the fans are petitioning to bring Rachelle back- it shows how endearing and dedicated the Twilight fans are. :0)
That being said, there's just no way- especially after all this publicity- that Summit would fire Bryce Dallas Howard, and then re-hire Rachelle.
What's done has been done, what more can we do?
On the plus side- Eclipse starts filming very soon, hooray!
10 days… 10 DAYS!!!!! REALLY??? It's not that big of a deal! Work with it Summit!
In that exact same interview, this was asked of Rachelle:
Q: So do you know what you’re doing next? Do you have anything you’re working on?
“No, I have a couple of things sort of in the mix right now that it looks like I’m going to get to do. One of something in between this and “Eclipse” but it’s a scheduling thing and so nothing is confirmed yet because you have to be available for the third movie.”
I call B.S.! My mother always said, “if you have nothing nice to say don't say anything at all.” So I'm keeping my mouth shut before I get in trouble!
with line #4, it would cost the production company TONS of money to push back the release date of Eclipse back a month. I also don't think it would be fair to the other castmates, as well as the fan- to push everything back a month for one person.
I DO think it would have been a fair compromise to film Victoria's scenes at the very end, or very beginning (like they did with Cam Gigandet in Twilight).
I am very disappointed. I think Rachelle LeFevre is a perfect Victoria.
Summit have posted the following:
“It is not about a ten day overlap, but instead about the fact that THE TWILIGHT SAGA: ECLIPSE is an ensemble production that has to accommodate the schedules of numerous actors while respecting the established creative vision of the filmmaker and most importantly the story.”
RESPECTING THE CREATIVE VISION & STORY!!!!. Shouldn't that mean that it is of the utmost importance to keep the continuity by contracting the same actors for all movies. Next thing we'll hear that Robert Pattinson & Kristen Stewart will be replaced – where will they stop? Imagine if Taylor Lautner wasn't given the chance to embody the role of Jacob for New Moon – Given the opportunity, he exceeded everybody's expectations.
WHAT ABOUT THE FANS??? Yes it is great that the Filmmaker has his vision – but this is a slap in the face to the fans. I am sure they realise now what a mistake that they have made, and it would take alot of guts to admit that they made a mistake. Whilst we respect the artistic vision of the director, ultimately the movies are produced to satisfy the FANS. After all, we are the ones that pay our money to see it. It is the responsibilty of the Director to understand what the fans want out of the movies and DELIVER.
If they can put a man on the moon, than surely they can fix this scheduling issue & deliver what obviously the fans are demanding.
I had time to sleep on it, until now Summit has made smart decisions when it has come to the Twilight Saga, they gave Taylor a fighting chance to keep his role, this was very unprofessional, even if Rachelle is partly at fault, they didn't even consult her, if she wanted to stay or go, in fact they went out of their way to lie to the fans with the first article making us believe it was a mutual agreement when it wasn't and now they come out with this statement?
Now I'm itching to know how the other cast member feel about this?
I consider Victoria to be one of the critical characters, especially in Eclipse. She's the main “bad guy” in Eclipse. You can't be more critical than that.
They replaced Victoria so easily that a Cullen could be next. Who knows, they might try and replace Alice because she's too tall.
See some here still think that Victoria will only appear in one scene? Nope, we will be getting more Victoria, that is why this thing blows.
I was just thinking…. they are still doing publicity and promoting for New Moon, which Rachelle is obviously going to have to attend. How uncomfortable for her that she needs to go and be all happy and pretend like everything is ok between her and Summit?? Unless Summit decides they don't want her doing any more promotions or interviews for New Moon….
Everyone is expendable to keep the gravy train going.
EPIC FAIL Summit
please sign this petition to bring rachelle back on eclipse!
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/rachellei...
I'm curious how the other castmates feel, too. Billy Burke tweeted this last nigth:
” I have NO idea what
went down with the Rachelle thing. None whatsoever. Bit confused
myself. I gotta go bowling now. More later… “
Of course, I'm sure the other castmates value their roles, so they won't speak openly against Summit..
LOL! Yes, Victoria does turns out to be the main villain in the end..
I don't like recastings any more than the next twi-fan, but there's nothing we can do at this point, ya know?
WTF…..I hate Ppl who are so money hungry that they dont think about the ppl “FANS” who are bringing in that damn money. I called and lefted like 10 messages and up until the 10th one I was straight forward to the point but the last one I lost it and called the new girl a scank and told them they suck etc….***wondering if they have caller ID****
Completely agree!
So over this too. It would have cost Summit millions to accommodate Rachelle's schedule (even if it's 10 days). She is NOT the lead actress.
I blame Rachelle, and her manager/agent. Come on! Everyone knows when Eclipse is filming! She should cleared it with Summit, or just turned down the role. Apparently it was small part too if she was only filming for 10 days. There will be other great roles offered to her after this.
I don't blame Summit for this. It's Hollywood and it's a business.
I will miss Rachelle, she was a great Victoria and wonderful to the fans. I'm sure Bryce Dallas Howard will be great too.
I'm with you on this. As long as Rob Kristen Taylor and the rest of the Cullens (no comment on Nikki Reed) stay the same, Eclipse will be great.
*hugs*
CALL THIS NUMBER AND LEAVE A MESSAGE THAT WE WANT RACH BACK NOW…..
310-309-8400
Well said Ibd. I really hope Summit reconsiders. Bryce would defininetly be great in Breaking Dawn.
I know i'm going the opposite direction here, but I'm a huge fan Twilight Saga, the movies and especially the books. I will agree there's more to the story (on both sides) than what we're being told but I AGREE WITH SUMMIT's decision.
Out of everything both sides have said, there was a ten day overlap in schedules. That can make a huge difference in production times. If Rachelle was truely committed (AS WE ARE) to the Twilight Saga, she would not have taken another job during production/filming time. Truely, THINK ABOUT IT…if you were a part of this, would you schedule something else during the time you KNOW YOUR going to be filming…ahh. NOOOO. I sure the hell wouldn't. Seriously, we have people going across the country and to other countries, just to be a part of this great story and/or to see the actors and actresses.
Also I see the Rob, Kristen, even Dakota doing other rolls/movies without interferring with TWILIGHT. It seems to me they did it the right way!!!
This is ridiculous. Everyone here is quick to trust One person but not the other. The truth of the matter is none of us know what exactky happened. But now what's done is done. I don't think Summit would have gotten rid of Rachelle go if they didn't have to so everyone just suck it up and realize that things happen that aren't always gonna make us happy
Great, now Summit is probably going to can Billy and claim he had a “scheduling conflict” too!!
If she was really commited to twilight she never would have signed on to do an indie flick with an overlapping schedule. no one really personally knows her, to know what her motivations were to sign on with another movie with an overlapping schedule. Summit has had a hard way to go with us fans and i say we give them a break. They produced these films when no one else would, and without them twilight never would have seen the light of day. I can handle a small role being recast, especially since they kept our beloved jacob. I am still super excited about movie and I'm on team summit with this one. sorry Rachelle
I'm in shock over this and don't even know where to begin. First, when I seen the announcement from Summit about the replacement it took me off guard. Rachelle has said throughout that she was commited to all the films and was excited about Eclipse because she gets to really show her abilities to bring Victoria to life. Next thing I see is right before production is to begin they change the actress…hello, what is up with that. I have to agree with what was said earlier, contracts take time to write up and agree to, nothing comes in that quick. I'm lead to believe there is more to this and it makes me think that money is involved. Bryce being Ron Howards daughter, may have agreed to taking less money for the role which would make Summit happy since they know how much the saga can bring in for them. They were a small, mostly unknown company until Twilight hit and bam..they want to play with the big guys now. just my opinion
I just don't believe Summit at all. I feel that they are tried to CYA and not look like the bad guy. But everything about this equation is too convenient.
First of all, Rachelle is the biggest Twilight fan of the cast. Why would she purposely do anything to jeopardize her role.
Secondally, I do not believe for one second that she waited until last week to tell Summit about this other film.
Thirdly, they recast her within a week's time with a big director's daughter.
Fourthly, this all happens on the heels of the big tabloid Robsten drama that was Comic Con. Trying to get our attention to go elsewhere maybe, Summit?
Summit is full of sh*t!!!
It wasn't summjit that made the big deal about it, it was Rachelle. She put out a statement blaming summit and acting innocent. Lets not be childish ourselves, ecpecially when everyone is pointing fingers
Like someone said if they made way to work around Cam and Jackson why not with Rachelle, as for the consipsercy(sp) that they want Ron Howard for Breaking Dawn, wouldn't make more sense to offer Byrce a role in that movie? there are alot more vampires than in Eclipse?
I know Rachelle was beyond exicted to begin filming Eclipse?, because she was going to be more in it, and she was so looking foward to the fight scene as we all were.
Summit – bullshitters.
I'm not really sure they want Ron for Breaking Dawn though it is a thought, but Bryce may have been willing to take less money for the role in Eclipse and still be able to play a major character. Though I'm unsure of both sides, only time will tell what the real reason is behind this change. I can hardly believe that Summit couldn't accomadate Rachelle with the overlap since Peter has a tv series now and I'm sure it will conflict at some point.
The way Summit is playing … Peter might be next on the chopping block.
Your scenario is quite possible. And if that's the case, Rachelle should be kicking her agent. I would hope that her agent was smart enough not to do that, since Rachelle received a pay raise (significant according to some sources) for Eclipse. It's entirely possible that Rachelle was blindsided by this because she wasn't aware her agent was pulling this tactic or playing hardball. It's possible she was told by her agent that there wouldn't be a problem, so she signed on for Barney's Version. It's also entirely possible Summit told her there wouldn't be a problem, and then used this opportunity to recast.
You're right that it's not Summit's job to check IMDB, but my point was if that site has been updated and it doesn't say “rumored,” then it's well known around town. The Hollywood Reporter reported she was in Barney's Version on 7/10/2009. It was announced in that article that principal photography would begin on August 17th. So, they knew earlier than July 20th. Also, Rachelle's contract for the Twilight saga says she only can accept roles with a short shooting schedule. 10 days is very short. And it's a supporting role. She portrays one of Paul Giamatti's wives. This movie is an indie, and doens't even have a distributor yet. And, the principal photography date was set for that movie since at least late May. So she would have known going into it that it started the same day as Eclipse, if that date was set for Eclipse. (Let's not ignore that even Rob Pattinson and Kristen Stewart have given conflicting statements as recent as June on when filming would start. Rob even said October at one point) Eclipse would have been a bigger role for her. It's Victoria's swan song. It's already got a set fan base, and the potential for mega money at the box office. I can't see passing on that for a supporting role. It's like giving up the a penthouse at Tump Tower for a walk up in Brooklyn Heights.
But the big thing here is if Summit really wanted Rachelle for this part, and they really didn't know until the 20th of July that she'd agreed to do this other movie, why didn't they approach her about it. Ask her why they weren't told, and quietly, told her 'no can do', and then if she still wanted out, then arrange that amicably. Their statement reads like an angry, spiteful child. These two sentences in their release are very telling. “We feel that her choice to withhold her scheduling conflict information from us can be viewed as a lack of cooperative spirit which affected the entire production.” I'm sorry, but that sounds petty and childish. “Lack of cooperative spirit”? Just because she scheduled another movie? Couldn't they quietly come to her and say it looks badly upon you that you scheduled this movie during the filming time for Eclipse. What is going on? You can't do both. Are you doing Eclipse? And the second sentence….”Contrary to Ms. Lefevre’s statement, it is simply untrue that the Studio dismissed her over a ten day overlap. It is not about a ten day overlap, but instead about the fact that THE TWILIGHT SAGA: ECLIPSE is an ensemble production that has to accommodate the schedules of numerous actors while respecting the established creative vision of the filmmaker and most importantly the story.” What does this mean? It's all about 10 days. “Respecting the established creative vision of the filmmaker and most importantly the story”? How is recasting the established actress for that role respecting the established creative vision? It sounds like sour grapes. And look at the backlash they are getting? Is all this really worth it?
It just doesn't smell right…….as someone said, if you smell fishiness, there's usually something fishy going on.
I would wait on the movie to come out later so we could keep the original Victoria!
All I have to say is that if it was Rob or anyother person they would have worked around it so why not work around her..
Whatever its not like all this bitching is going to help lets just hope that this new person can live up to Rachelle.
True but why didn't Summit say this the first time, making it believe it was a mutual agreement? they are suppose to be the professionals, and done this simple. “do you want to continue or not?” true Rachelle should finished first with the Twilight Saga before embarking on another project, but Summit has not handle the situation in a professional manner, and it makes them look bad.
You never know, and that would suck..
Ok, I think people need to calm down a bit!
I know it's horrible that Rachelle is being replaced as Victoria, ( I loved her in Twilight), but the fact is that she signed a contract with Summit to committ to these movies, and by signing on for another movie that coincided with the scheldule for Eclipse, she effectively broke that contract.
Summit did what they had to do. If Rachelle was as committed to The Twilight Saga as she claims, she would never have signed on for this new movie without checking with Summit about whether the schedule could be managed.
I do think it's sad that this has happened, but from the companys point of view, it was a necessity. If a person breaks a contract with a company in the real world, then that company will void that contract…this situation is no different. I'm sure they would do the same with any other member of the cast, and so they should. I know I'll probably get a lot of abuse for saying that, but it's just my opinion.
On a final note, I respect Rachelle LeFevre for bringing Victoria to life in such a fatastic way, but I think Bryce Dallas Howard will do an equally brilliant job. She is a gifted actress. This situation is NOT her fault!
If Summit had been smart, they would have issued a teaser statement first – sort of like “We may have to recast Rachelle due to scheduling problems..” Then Rachelle would have realized her role was at stake and could have renegotiated. Also the Twilight fans would have been prepared. Instead, Summit announced the switch out of the blue which surprised both Rachelle and us. Summit totally blew it. They are a young company and need better management and a PR firm. Don't they realize who is funding the filming of Eclipse? WE ARE .. THE LOYAL (and now upset) FANS!!!
It would suck Royal ass if they re-casted her , VAMPIRES ARE NOT SAPOSE TO CHANGE !!! !!! no matter how much make up they put on this new chick she's still not going to be the real victoria. I think they should keep her , and she should say screw the other movie im going to be in Eclips . Because this is the movie she is going to be remembered for ! Cuz theres like no way anyones going to forget about the twilight saga Especially ECLIPS its epic !
i liked rachelle as Victoria, but because of the small time frame that Victoria is actually in Eclipse, I am not at all disappointed by a character change. I LOVE BRYCE DALLAS HOWARD!! She is going to be a brilliant Victoria!! And, I cant wait to see Rob decapitate her!! PPL should get over it, at least they didnt recast Jacob or Bella or Edward!!
i have to agree with you here . . . i haven't posted to this site in months but feel the need over this issue. my first thought was “Rachelle has gotten too big for her own britches.” i do believe she and her agents/managers probably thought that she had enough “leverage” to pull this off, to make Summit submit to her needs. fact remains that she is not the only person filming in this movie and many of the other stars have become MUCH bigger than her in the industry over the last year. i am totally disappointed in BOTH sides. perhaps they could have compromised, perhaps not. as a fan of the series all i can do is hope that the rest of the movies STAYS AS TRUE TO THE BOOKS AS POSSIBLE and that Slade doesn't screw it up.
well i think…..if summit was going to recast victoria, they should have informed rachelle before even searching for a new victoria!…..i dont see how i can watch eclipse with out rachelle….she is best for the roll of victoria…people are going to be devestated when they learn that rachelle isnt playin the roll of victoria.
This is a very sad news, the exact news that we all feared it would happen. MY opinion is that Summit has (obviously) another reason for recasting the role of Victoria. If we cannot trust anything anymore we can, at least, trust Rachelle's reactions and watch her passionate interviews about the twilight saga. Her dedication goes beyond anything as she understands the opportunity to play in such a big and special production. If she signed for a 10 day shooting with another production I'm sure it's not that big of a deal taking into consideration that she's not the only one with paralel projects. NOW I'm actually curious if Kristen's or Robert's or Ashley's schedules will actually be finished before the starting of Eclipse filming. I also thought that after 2 such big productions it wouldn't even be the case of recasting ANYONE anymore. I thought Summit would value this cast more than ever NOW that Twilight has such a big succes…Isn't it the cast't merrit? I am deeply dissapointed and I wish it was some way to hurt Summit for their action. RECAST RACHELLE!!!
The reason they did one and not the other is because… Twilight was suposed to be an independant film, they didnt know it would become this fenom that it has. Everyone else had other projects they were working on during the down time between movies, they scheduled around it and made sure they were done. I understand the upset but she assumed that they wouldnt start with out her. If she wasnt doing anything wrong she wouldnt have waited to tell Summit. We don't need to start a fight with Summit about something we probably don't know the whole story. They also waited until SHE started throwing mud to say something. So we need to take this in stride and hope that our other favs get the message that it's not a game and that they are in control. So people need to chill out and relax. I have faith in Bryce if they didnt either they wouldnt have casted her in this role knowing people werent going to be happy.
you go, irish girl!!!
yes, i also agree that they either are lying about bryce's supposed hiring, or this all happened before the 20th. I think rachel wasn't blaming summit about the scheduling issues, but that summit wanted a new face and saw this as the perfect chance to boot out the older actors. i don't want a new face to eclipse: i loved the older actors, and even the fact that they replaced the wolves for new moon pissed me off (you know, they kicked out the old embry and quil from twilight). SUMMIT, stop changing things around!!! rachel is perfect for this role! your press release further unravels that summit is making some stupid decisions: renegotiate with rachel!
ditto, they are trying to make themselves look like the guilt-free party. perhaps both are at fault… but they should know that keeping the same actors/actresses is almost essential to making the movies series a success….
yeah. i hated her in other movies. like, the village, for example. i cannot stand her! she is going to be a horrible victoria! she is going to overdo every fight scene and every line that she reads is going to sound fake!
but ur right, this isnt about bryce. however, i hope she DOES back out: none of the true fans are going to really accept her into the twi-family
Wow, that was a serious fuck you from Summit. They didn't have to be so publicly harsh on her. I hate the business, it's full of douchebags.
*gasps*
no! we must not think that way!
LOL
In my opinion Summit was not wrong in replacing Rachelle. She committed herself to her role in Twilight Sage: Eclipse and she should have not taken another job evening though it was a 10 day shoot. As everyone knows, rehearsal is an important facture when making a film. Therefore, Summit had every right to secure their position by recasting if Rachelle was not available during that 10 day. I think Rachelle did a fantastic job in playing Victoria. However, even though Summit made the annoucement as it was a mutual dicision even though it was not they were just being professional with the media and was not wrong. Who is to say that they did not infact contact Rachelle and her Manager to give them notice. I highly think they just made a public annoucement with the media before giving Rachelle notice. It is sad that she will not play Victoria because she was excellent in protraying that character, but as a fan of Twilight I am going to support their decision and hopefully Byrce Dallas Howard will study and do her homework so she can be just as good as Rachelle was.
If you want Rachelle back write/email Summit threatening a boycot of Eclipse!
Summit:
Summit Entertainment
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Santa Monica, CA 90404
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Thi is such crap in my opinion. I can't believe that they are doing this to Rachelle. She was an awesome Victoria and I was looking forward to seeing her in Eclipse, especially the fight at the end. And I hate that they're replacing her after she'll be in the first two movies. Replacing in the middle of a series is just stupid in my opinion. All Summit seems to care about is $$$ and rolling the movies out as fast as possible. (I'm stll a little worried about NM being done so quickly.) Summit is not looking good right now.
I don't buy it! I don't trust Summit one bit. I still stand behind Rachelle and I'm curious to see what her response to this will be. Keep up with the petitions guys!
Just posted this on NMM.org, but I want to show Rachelle my support and will be saying it again!
I wrote Summit a letter yesterday, but today I am writing another one. I have a hard time believing that Rachelle would not tell Summit about her conflict. In addition after reading this:
http://twilightindo.ning.com/profiles/blogs/i-c…
I am furoius! How dare they impersonate the police! I plan on letting them know what they did is disgraceful! I will be inlcuding red ribbons in the letter.
If anyone is going to Twicon in Dallas, start a petition there and make sure everyone signs it!
Well there u go summit said it themselves “ECLIPSE is an ensemble production that has to accommodate the schedules of numerous actors” so why not schedule around rachelle's schedule. summit trying to cover their ass again.
As stated in my posting last night I sent emails to all Summit Execs. I received a response from Nancy Kirkpatrick first thing this morning (6:42 AM). Basically stating what a horrible experience this was for them and how they were misused by Rachelle. Per Nancy’s email the job Rachelle took was completed in early June.
Based on this response, this is what I read into it. Most likely Nancy Kirkpatrick is the designated spin doctor for this topic. The response is a canned response. Corporate America does not allow any written responses to go out to the public that have not been cleared through the business machine. (I know how this works as I was a VP for a Fortune 500 company for 11 years.) They state that the last 10 days have put them under a great strain.
Things to think about: Does anyone honestly believe that this large movie giant, was totally blindsided by Rachelle? Remember that rumors travel faster through the movie community than any other business. Does it seem strange that Rachelle’s scheduling conflict only became know to Summit Entertainment conveniently after Comic-Con. This way they were able to make their appearance at Comic-Con and avoid the bad press it would have caused if the fans had known about the casting replacement during the general meeting. Does anybody believe that Summit was not already in talks with Bryce Howard and were just waiting to issue the press release to fit their needs.
The way to send a message to Summit is through their pocket book. By all means support the books, but think twice about supporting the movies. Read the books again if you need an Edward/Bella fix.
i really feel for Rachelle she was awesome as Victoria i will miss her but at Least if Bryce is going to Play Victoria in Eclipse we wont have to see her again as she gets Killed off …oh im so naughty has evil grin on my face
I think most of you are making a huge deal out of nothing. It's not like they're replacing Bella or Edward. Rachelle knew the schedule, she shouldn't have signed to do something else. The other cast members have kept their schedule cleared. It's not going to keep me from seeing the movie! I'm with Summit on this one.
Summit must not have -thought- … Twilight fandom… is huge… we WANT the same characters for every single movie. PAY HER MORE. GET HER OUT OF THE OTHER MOVIE. BRING HER BACK. If Summit can't swallow their pride, then I'd like to know who the f*ck they think they are??? WE THE FANS PAY THEM TO MAKE MOVIES!!!!
if you wANT RACHELLE LEFEVRE BACK THEN SIGN THIS PETITION! what summit did was REALLLY MESSSED UP!! -_-
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/we-want-rachel...
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/we-want-rachel...
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/we-want-rachel...
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/we-want-rachel...
hey Summit, let's play the she said/he said blame it game
ready set- GO!
it is so obvious your doings are sketch, bc it's clear during CC last week Rachelle was very enthusiastic about Eclipse when she was spotted @ Twilight screenings. You must have hired BDH long before; otherwise why would Rachelle want to make an apperance? ok ok, you'll argue, it's part of her contract. sure, make an appearance. nowhere does it say play up the enthusiasm and passion to the fans. (i.e. Rachelle was clearly not putting up a show during CC). so – what do you do since you lack major b@lls? release a statement AFTER CC hysteria. if you were straight legit, you would have issued a statement LONG before the beginning of Eclipse production.
This is absolutely ludicrous!! How can they change her in one of the most important Victoria parts? As my sister has stated, we've gotten to know this Victoria that Rachelle has portrayed so well and now they're bringing in some one new? I mean, this is a total 180 in progress!! I am completely against Summit doing this and want to know where the petition sign up sheet is to get her back!! Though I wouldn't blame her if she didn't want to just based on how they have treated her alone. This explanation means absolutely nothing to me. Summit has made a gross error in replacing her and even if there were some difficulties on her part, they should have still kept Rachelle instead of having many disheartened and enraged fans of the films and books. I am truly upset about this and think that something needs to be done about this instead of bringing in Bryce Dallas Howard, no matter how talented, available or LESS EXPENSIVE it would be to do so.
I just finished reading the Unicorn chapter in WA!!! Now your name makes total sense to me
I must say, that I love WA, I am totally addicted to it. I want to thank Nicnix for introducing me to the awesome-ness that is WA!!!
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Okay so i don't know whether or not to believe this but its a big downer for us.
Summit is really pi$$ing me off!
Haha of course you can hold a grudge.. you're a woman!!
That's what we do best!!
Rachel must be in Eclipse!! I hate when movies replaces characters to the sequels – it's just not the same and especially not in Eclipse were she has such a big part. Summit and Rachel have to work something out!!!
It just seem that Summit didn't want to work anything out with her at all. They replaced her awful fast. Something doesn't seem right. Rachelle began with Twilight and should end with Eclipse. Summit needs to accommodate her. Twilight fans are very loyal – it worked for Taylor so maybe this petition might work for Rachelle as well. Lets pull together on this one – go sign the petition!
http://www.petitiononline.com/Summit3/petition….
Lefevre was never evil enough, so I think Summit made an excellent move. Howard is a ten-times better actress and should have been Victoria from the start.
I'd try not to be so biased and deluded but rather keep an open mind…might ruin your Eclipse-movie experience and I'm sure none of you want that.
Rachelle IS Victoria!!!
She is a VAMPIRE!!
You CAN'T changes the vamps!!!
I know Rachelle loves playing Victoria and that she is deeply saddened by being replaced!!!
In my honest opinion I think Summit needs to apologize to Rachelle and all of the Twilight Fans and they need to put Rachelle BACK on the movie!!!!
Rachelle is the only Victoria in my eyes….
And this girl that they have replaced her with could NEVER be a better Victoria…
Replacing Rachelle will ruin the movies!!!
I'm not really choosing sides here because it really doesn't matter. There's no way to know who's telling the truth and Summit has made their decision. But something you said bothered me. Summit may have other ways to find out about other commitments actors have made, but they shouldn't HAVE to. If the actors are going to commit to other films it's their responsibility to relay that information to the companies they're working with.
I will admit it's a bit sketchy that they pulled that recasting off so quickly. It definitely makes it seem like they're not telling the whole truth.
I really don't know who to believe. I seriously doubt that Rachelle would knowingly withhold information from the studio; information that could potentially affect the production of Eclipse, or any movie in the Twilight Saga. As a Twilight Saga fan, I know how passionate she is about this series, and how excited she was to work on the rest of the movies.
I think there was serious miscommunication between Rachelle and Summit, and instead of replacing Rachelle by Bryce, I wish they would have tried to work it out. Now it has turned into some sort of battle/argument, and I feel even worse for Rachelle, because Summit is making it sound like she put the project in jeopardy, which could have potentially affected the Twilight Saga cast and crew – something I know Rachelle would never do.
I am confused, and want the truth. I still love Rachelle though!
Summit is now pissing EVERYBODY off by saying that Rachelle needs to be tied down till the end of her role as Victoria! How is she going to be able to make money when the twilight movies take a break? summit needs to be leanant because alot of the twilight saga actors and actresses have had to take time off like cam did when he was filming the unborn he wasnt in all the time and there were scenes where hes cruical to the movie that they had to film when he had time! rachelle is a HUGE character in this book and shes in like one scene so why dont they just cut her some slack and let her get the role she deserves and worked hard for?
If they didn't find out until JUly 20th then they recasted her awfully quick. Summit isn't being forthright here. THey were prob just pissed bc she didn't tell them, and they have every right but they though ” we'll show her”. Which isn't right either! Seriously Summit was STUPID to replace her especially since in Eclipse Victoria's role is so vital! BIG BIG BIG MISTAKE SUMMIT!
Given the opportunity BDH could exceed everyone's expectations too but nobody is stopping to consider that. If everybody goes in to the movie thinking it's going to be horrible, then they won't be giving her a fair chance as Victoria. It's not her fault that Summit chose to release Rachael from her contract.
And besides, people would be complaining non-stop of the movie was delayed for months in order to accomodate Rachael. You can't win with everyone. If people aren't going to go see the movie because a minor character was replaced, then they're not true Twilight fans and it's not much of a loss.
I really don't care what Summit says. They are just trying not to be hated as much and it's really childish. It's like the blame game all over again! I STILL WANT RACHELLE!
I agree and i hope she does back out and Rachelle steps back in!
but summits gonna fight the comments and not let Rachelle in if bryce backs out!
Summit needs to learn things and 2 of the things they need to learn are
1. dont keep switching directors when doing a saga because the artistic vision will get screwed up
and
2.dont change the actors who play key roles in the saga because fans will freak!
I repeated it in newmoonmovie.org and i repeat it again, i´m sure summit would be the last one to change ANYTHING that is giving them what they are getting…lots of money…they have found their treasure with this saga, so let´s be realistic, we have seen many concessions made by the studio, because they wanted to please the fans that means money again…but a single person just CANT CHANGE one hundred people schedule, because a movie, with this budget and now this proportions cant´work out for just one person…no worries about alice, cullens or wathever…they will be… they are the REALLY IMPORTANT characters….imagine a movie of the saga without Rob, Kristen, Peter, Kellan, Taylor or Mike…nonono…there is something more…
That's true! At least she dies! XD
I won't be going to see Eclipse if Rachelle isn't Victoria. If Howard is such a good actress, why haven't I heard of her before?
And quit calling us biased and deluded. We are passionate about the saga we love and are just exercising our freedom of speech.
It seems as if these people have no concept of what CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS actually mean. But you will never convince a conspiracy theorist. So sucks for Summit that they are gonna get all this Pro-Rachelle/Anti-Bryce crap. And sucks for Rachelle who should have just meet her CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS with Summit and not even risked this turn of events if she was so “passionate” about her role in the Saga. Its lose/lose for both parties.
I agree! Here is my letter to Summit:
“Dear Mr. Feig:
You broke up the family Do you not understand that your fan base has grown to regard the original cast members of Twilight as a family that are admired as individuals AND as a bonded group? And that fans look so forward to seeing the Twilight family's reunion on film? ALL of the members? INCLUDING Rachelle Lefevre? How can you break that up???
Additonally, Rachelle Lefevre truly made the character of Victoria her own. I saw Twilight EIGHT TIMES and one of my favorite scenes, of ALL movies, is the final scene in Twilight where Rachelle descends the staircase with beautiful, vengeful determination. How can Bryce Dallas Howard match THAT? I saw Terminator Salvation and, for the life of me, I can't recall Ms. Dallas Howard in that movie AT ALL
Please reconsider your decision to boot Rachelle Lefevre from a role that she transformed with a passion and memorableness that made so many of us look forward to her having a FULL presence in the third film.
Do not let Eclipse be eclipsed by a bad decision. I doubt that I will see Eclipse eight times without Rachelle Lefevre.
Sincerely,
G. A. Hussey”
I don't care that the movie will be delayed as long as it is Rachelle who plays Victoria! They Must come up with a sollution that do not involve the replacing of Rachelle!!!
I think you make a good point, however, I do feel that if Rob or Kristen (or anyone else really) had a scheduling conflict, they would do whatever was necessary to make it work. I think they definately underestimated how much Rachelle as Victoria means to all of us and now they are trying to cover thier butts. Plus, maybe Rachelle felt that since this would be it for her involvment in the series, she wanted to have something else lined up as well. As an actor, it would be very difficult to turn down a job with such amazing people in it. It's possible she just couldn't turn down the offer, and was hoping that Summit would be reasonable. Unfortunately, she was dead wrong cause the people at Summit are idiots.
Ok, I went to film school. That doesnt make me an expert by any means, but I know how this works. BOTH parties were at fault. Rachelle knew her schedule and should've made arrangements, if not with Summit, than with the other production company, she obviously can't be in 2 places at once.
That being said, she pays a management team quite a bit of money to speak to production companies on her behalf, and I'm pretty sure the management team would'nt throw her under the bus like that (after all, its their job on the line). Summit knew, they just decided to take the “easy road”. I know fans are hard up for Eclipse, but I can guarantee fans would have been more at ease knowing Summit had to back up scheduling a week and a half to ensure all the beloved actors would be included. Instead, they pissed off a LOT of people.
Rachelle should've planned her shooting schedules more carefully, and Summit should've taken care of the situation very differently.
I know for a fact that shooting was completely rearranged for Cam Gigandet. They shot ALL his scenes first because he had to be somewhere else. Now, yes, SHOOTING schedules can be rearranged far more easily than rehersals and principle photography, but its not impossibe.
And to fans out there who think Summit doesnt care about you. You're just a tad off the mark. Summit wants you happy. Happy fans = big box office numbers and record breaking weekends. Do they care about your personal opinion? Probably not, but they know that for them to bring in the cash, YOU have to be satsfied.
Ok, I went to film school. That doesnt make me an expert by any means, but I know how this works. BOTH parties were at fault. Rachelle knew her schedule and should've made arrangements, if not with Summit, than with the other production company, she obviously can't be in 2 places at once.
That being said, she pays a management team quite a bit of money to speak to production companies on her behalf, and I'm pretty sure the management team would'nt throw her under the bus like that (after all, its their job on the line). Summit knew, they just decided to take the “easy road”. I know fans are hard up for Eclipse, but I can guarantee fans would have been more at ease knowing Summit had to back up scheduling a week and a half to ensure all the beloved actors would be included. Instead, they pissed off a LOT of people.
Rachelle should've planned her shooting schedules more carefully, and Summit should've taken care of the situation very differently.
I know for a fact that shooting was completely rearranged for Cam Gigandet. They shot ALL his scenes first because he had to be somewhere else. Now, yes, SHOOTING schedules can be rearranged far more easily than rehersals and principle photography, but its not impossibe.
And to fans out there who think Summit doesnt care about you. You're just a tad off the mark. Summit wants you happy. Happy fans = big box office numbers and record breaking weekends. Do they care about your personal opinion? Probably not, but they know that for them to bring in the cash, YOU have to be satsfied.
When they tried this crap over the possible recasting of Taylor, the fans went nuts. It was huge and made news around the world how the fans backlashed, so they had to give him a chance.
They were not going to make the same mistake twice. They didn't want that this time, to give it a chance to be changed so they just issued the statement that it's a done deal. A recast without warning to anyone (including cast and Lefevre). This way it's too late for fans to do anything.
itz too late they already ruined it by changin RACHELLE
What a croc, summit. who do you think you're fooling? summit sucks
I´m going to see Eclipse because I loved the book and want to see it with real characters…I love Rachelle, but i´m not going to go any further to this…she really wanted to play Victoria and summit wanted her to be Victoria because any small change could mean trouble for the studio and trouble means less money…so let´s be realistic about this…Rachelle I love the wild Victoria you played and I hope the best for you…but i will go to see the movies, until i see the happy ending at BD
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they should HAVE to Google, check IMDB, check the rags for other opportunities their actors have agreed to do. I just don't buy that they were completely unaware. They read Variety…..they read The Hollywood Reporter. I just don't buy it. But, yes, it was her responsibility (meaning her, her agent, or manager) to let them know she was considering this role. Weighing the opportunity, and the way this was handled, it's sketchy as you said. It seems a bad career choice to give up a lead role for a 10 day shoot on a supporting role. And while Victoria isn't seen alot in the book Eclipse, you know visually we'd have seen more of her in this movie, just as we are in New Moon.
The big thing out of all of this is Summit comes of as immature and petty. They are a business. Rachelle's response was emotional, polite, and frankly pretty honest. In the end, they fired her because she had a 10 day conflict. What we don't know is if she was offered the chance to back out of Barney's Version and fulfill her duties to Eclipse. Rachelle implies she would have done that. But in the end, why should one response from an actress, who no offense to her, isn't that well known outside of the Twilight world, elicit throwing her under a bus? Their manner in handling this was completely unprofessional. They coldheartedly let Rachelle go while at the same moment took Bryce Dallas Howard and, sorry for the pun, fed her to the wolves. Then after Rachelle responded, which they should have expected to happen, they throw her under a bus stating she it was her fault, and she makes bad career choices. Shouldn't they have been the bigger 'man' about all this? Shouldn't they have announced Rachelle's departure……let that die down. Don't retaliate with a blame press release. Then announce Bryce. Wouldn't that have been the best for Bryce, who is now coming into this with alot of baggage that isn't hers.
Ok…I'm going to stop rambling now…..so I'm not fired from my job. Ha!
They worked around Cam Gigandet's schedule for Twilight because he was shooting another film. That is why they did the difficult (for the actors) fight scene in the first week. Because he had to leave. As for this situation, it's sad. I hate when actors are replaced from key roles. Summit is doing what suits Summit. If they wanted to they could make this work. They choose not too.
I totally agree with you, Eclipse was my favorite book of the Saga, but now that Rachelle is being replaced, I think not a lot of fans are going to watch the movie as much without Rachelle. I mean common, there has been movies were main characters have been replaced and they turn out to be worst. Rachelle was the ideal Victoria for me, but with a sudden change, I'm not as much interested in the movie anymore. Even though I liked Spiderman 3 were Bryce came out on it, it just disappoints me that she took Rachelle's role. I don't think shes that great of an actress either. It's pathetic there must be a mistake!!!!
I totally agree with you, Eclipse was my favorite book of the Saga, but now that Rachelle is being replaced, I think not a lot of fans are going to watch the movie as much without Rachelle. I mean common, there has been movies were main characters have been replaced and they turn out to be worst. Rachelle was the ideal Victoria for me, but with a sudden change, I'm not as much interested in the movie anymore. Even though I liked Spiderman 3 were Bryce came out on it, it just disappoints me that she took Rachelle's role. I don't think shes that great of an actress either. It's pathetic there must be a mistake!!!!
I don't know who to believe either. The only think I'm sure of is that it's really sad that it came down to this and that the argument came out in public. It paints both Summit and Rachelle in a bad light imo.
There was probably miscommunication between rachelle and summit. Or who knows maybe one team wanted to try and get their cake and eat it too by working simultanously on more than one project and the other one got offended they'd have to work out another schedule and decided to make an example so that no other actor dares this? There are a lot of actors involved and what would happen if more of them would do the same? Rachelle's agents should never made her sign on another project, it was too risky.
We don't know what really happened but I for one would have prefered they had worked their argument out in private and I didn't have to listen to all the arguments, it won't do anyone any good. jmo
It's sad that rachelle is not in Eclipse, I loved her a lot as Victoria. But I'll still look forward to Eclipse just as much as before.
I bet bid daddy Howard talked Summit into casting his little girl in her favorite books… turned into movies… along with negotiating directing some movies for them. That's the big secret here. Summit's just using the “contract obligation” as a scapegoat.
Great point!
Summit did produce Twilight when no one else would. Team Summit! LOL!
they can't push it back because Rob is supposed to start another movie as soon as Eclipse wraps up. Plus, it costs a ton of money to moving schedules around.
To all those that say they love Rachelle as Victoria and won't see the movie if she's not in it… get real! She had a small part in Twilight and we haven't even seen her in New Moon yet! Bryce Dallas Howard is a great actress…she will do fine!
if howard is such a good actress then why wasn't she cast in the first movie to begin with, duh!
Right on. I'm not a fan of the director switching for eclipse. I was glad that they switched for new moon though. i am pretty pissed abt this thing with rachelle. so dumb
i agree with this whole heartedly, Summit KNOWS even if we don't like it, we WILL still go see New Moon. but try to replace robert, kristen, or taylor, um, someone's car would probably get blown up or something……
AMEN!!!! THank you for stating the facts. I understand that people don't want to possibly think that she thought she had this role in the bag and she was a super star now and she can run across the pond make a quick buck while the “iron is hot” so to speak. We need to just understand that things like this happen all the time in films. We dont need to act like children and through a temper tantrum because we didnt get OUR way.
if she's so great why wasn't she cast in the Twilight movie? To change a character in the 3rd movie of a saga is stupid not to mention a bad business move on summit's part
This is the last time I will post on this subject, I think the case here was miscommunication and Rachelle is somewhat at fault, she should had not accepted any other roles before her time with Twilight was up and finger wagging at Summit for not acting more professional, But I won't be dragged into the anti-Bryce campaign either, or taken sides. Someone is lying and someone telling the truth time will tell who.
I have to agree with you skk801. They knew the uproar they'd get if they released anything stating a change might be in the works.
but isn't it supposed to basically be OUR way? as long as it works? and Rachelle worked. she wasn't even going to be in Eclipse very much, they could have worked with her, but i agree, she should have gotten it cleared first i guess.
i agree daddy ron had a big play in this role
But they did give Taylor a fighting chance and they do allow Stephenie to give her input on things when writers sell their rights to a movie company, they have no say in what they do with that material. Case in point with the Vampire Diaries, the author is not happy on how her story is going to be told,
um, have you seen kristen's hair? now i'm gonna be watching Eclipse, thinking the whole time, man, thats a wig……..
I totally agree with you! I am very disappointed that they have had to re-cast Victoria, however we the fans have all known for months when filming was going to start on Eclipse and Rachelle shouldn't have risked having a filming overlap without checking it with Summit. What is everyone else meant to do whilst she finishes filming Barney's Version, sit around and wait for her? They have commitments and a life/career outside of Twilight too, but they have managed to keep they're schedules free to film Eclipse.
We all know how tight the filming schedule is for The Twilight Saga and Summit are doing this for us the fans – I don't think we should be laying into them over something that seems to be Rachelle's fault. They're trying to get these films out as quickly as possible for us – remember that people! I want Rachelle to be Victoria as much as anyone else does but I really don't see how this is Summit's fault!
Also, they've cast a lot of people recently for the new roles in Eclipse so I don't think we should be suspicious that it's happened so quickly. They would have to do it quickly otherwise the whole thing would've been delayed and then there would be even more uproar from us lot. If they were recasting one of the Cullens, Jacob or Bella or another main character I think it would be a disaster and they should delay filming but Victoria isn't really involved until Eclipse so I don't think it will be that bad.
I'm sure Eclipse will be great, with or without Rachelle. There's nothing we can do about it, and I don't see that Rachelle and Summit would want to join forces now anyway so we've just got to live with it unfortunately and look forward to watching the next 3 films!
Thank you for laying it out on the table. I mean we don't want to confuse people with the facts ya know.
you do know that in television almost every episode it directed by a different director. same with many movies and they have all been terrific. some maybe better because of that change. i know i might get my head bitten off here but i think that new moon will be better because of a new director and same with eclipse. eclipse gets darker and david slade does dark well.
now as far as victoria i am upset that they changed her so quickly but again it was rachelles choice to take a fill that overlapped in the first place. it was poor planning on her part there if she really wanted to be in eclipse. i understand that she wants other work but no actor has it set in. remember everyones fight to keep taylor as jacob??!?!?
it all sounds like a big misunderstanding to me
I really like everything you have to say. Have you written a letter and/or email to Summit? Also, can I borrow your timeline info (how fast everything was thrown together) for my second letter?
Here here! If people aren't going to see Eclipse because one of the supporting actresses, who was hardly in Twilight and probably won't be in New Moon very much, couldn't get her schedule sorted out, then what kind of fans are you?
Everyone thinks that they want Summit to delay filming by a week so that Rachelle can be Victoria, if that means that Rob, Kristen, Taylor etc then have conflicting schedules should their parts be re-cast instead? Seriously, I don't see how Summit could've done anything else but replace her. All this and she's not even a main character until Eclipse!
I will definitely be going to see Eclipse regardless – yes it sucks but it's not the end of the world as we know it. If someone else is recast then you need to start worrying!
To a degree yes, because they made her role bigger and better, she should have made da*n sure she didnt let anything get in the way of this project. I mean don't take advantage of the fact that you have lots of fans, would you do everything you could NOT to let them down? even if that includes being responsible?
what the heck is kristen's hair got to do with RL's topic, take your hate somewhere, and no you'll be watching Eclipse thinking of Rachelle as a better victoria.
I hope that everyone will give Bryce a chance. I feel really let down that Rachelle would allow this schedule conflict to happen. She talks about how much she loves Twilight and then lets this happen! The Twilight Saga must go on and there are many more people to consider. I wish Rachelle the best and look forward to Eclipes!
Summit is looking out for the best interest of the movies. That's their
job.
Apathy is sad and unappealing.
Exactly. Sucks that she's recast but respecting decided shooting schedules is important and is also being respectful of the other cast members who also have other movies to work on after Eclipse or who maybe have turned down other project because of conflicting schedules.
As long as robert, kristen, most of the cullen and taylor are not recast, I won't feel too bad.
Maybe! That could straighten a lot of things out.
Finally someone else who noticed old Embry and Sam! Whenever I weep over Solomon people look at my funny. This whole situation with Rachelle just makes me want to cry. (I'm passionate about my actors) I think what I will do, if I decided to see Eclipse is cart around a picture of Rachelle's head on a stick and when Bryce comes on I will simply hold the picture in front of her face. I think I will forever do that if they don't bring back Rachelle.
Did you name MIKE as an important character? What the heck? I could care less about him. I see it this way Victoria IS a main character. Maybe we don't see her in the books but everyone is dang sure talking about her. You don't have to be on screen to be a main character.
I don't dislike Bryce, but I love Rachelle and I just feel bad for her in all of this.
“You broke up the family.” – Love it!
Well said!
LOL.
your right! we made need too add a lil “sumtin sumtin”.
SPORKS !?
damn straight!
It's time they fear the rath of Twihards at their most un holy hour and their sporks and colorful drink umbrellas!
I declare we go VOLTURI ON THEIR ASSESTS! LOL.
Woot! Woot! You tell 'em TSH!
Woot! Woot! You tell 'em TSH!
Woot! Woot! You tell 'em TSH!
I think they will be able to make Bryce look just like Rachelle/ Victoria, but it's the principle of the whole situation that's made me so mad!
Wooooow! New Topic! Wait till you read what Nikki said about Rob
to People! I can feel the sting from here! Hey Summit I think your stars are strating to crash into each other!
yep, agree with you there
They better not replace ANYONE else. We love our Twi-cast!
Aw, poor Rachelle!
heehee, love your screen name! LOL
Honestly I haven't decided if I am doing a letter or not. I did sign the petition RPATTZNews put together out of principle. And I'm dying to know what the cast thinks of this change, although I doubt anyone will give their honest opinion on it. But I have seen things like this before and been through the letter writing campaigns. The majority of the time, in recasts, it doesn't work. Not that I want to discourage people from doing this. By all means, please let Summit know what you think. Write, email, and call. But I feel like Summit has egg on their face…..of their own doing. And they've shown with this press release that they are not very mature. I don't see them backing down now. The only way I see her getting the role back is if the entire cast of Eclipse revolts and says they won't show up on set until she's reinstated. And while they are a close cast, I don't see that happening.
You're welcome to use any of my timeline information. Borrow away!
Sam Uley was in Twilight? Where? I don't remember anyone introduced as Sam.
i 100% agree with you!..i think it is wrong that summit released her! and now Eclipse is not going 2 be the same
Well it looks like she made her choice. She should not have taken for granted the fact that she was part of the saga… she isnt bella… it looks to me like she was being greedy wanting her cake and eating it too! To bad for her she should have really thought about it now she has a small part versus a very big part in eclipse.
He has a very small part– whenever Bella and her friends from school go to La Push. Mike Newton says, “yeah, that's cuz Cullen's a freak.” And then it's Sam Uley's character that says, “You got that right!”
I had to google it to confirm- because when I saw the scene in the movies- I couldn't figure out who those two boys with Jacob were supposed to be! I thought it was supposed to be Quil and Embry, but it's Sam and maybe Paul (I already forgot)
ROTFL.. SPORKS!!!!!
You are brilliant!!! *takes entire crew of angry twilighters to KFC so we can eat fried chicken and use sporks for torture later)
Excellent!! I am WELL ARMED!!! WHY USE CLAWS WHEN I HAVE SUCH DEADLY DEVICES AS SPORKS and TOOTHPICKS!!!!!!!!!
glares menacingly!!!!!
Yeah, probley and thats my favorite book!!!
Damm you Summit you ar ruining everything!
I think that's why the recasting of Sam Uley didn't effect a lot of people. I didn't even know “Sam Uley” was in the first movie. I just thought those guys were Jacob's Friend 1 and Jacob's Friend 2. lol That's probably how I would have named them if I had written the screenplay.
Yeah, Bryce Dallas can play Maggie from the irish coven! She is described as small with red curls, that can work..
how did they reply, because that was a good letter, can you email me the response, my e-mail is aneishanicole90@yahoo.com, so im sure their response will be very interesting to hear.
Thank you girls! I thought I was going to get burned at the stake because I don't hate Summit.
i have not gotten back a response from anyone on any three of my letters so far.
*gag*
Summit makes me sick.
Do they not realized they just fired one of the most enthusiastic actors on set of twilight?
What in the world were they thinking?
*bangs head on the wall*
bad move Summit…bad move…
The whole Twlight Saga is revolved around the conflict with Victoria. It builds from the first Book. Its no small part.
lmao! that's a great idea! I should do that too, carry around Rachelle's head, that is, if Summit doesn't scramble to get her back. How can they do that to us? It's only friggin 10 days!!!!
That's what I was thinking. I believe summit was just looking for a way to boot her and overreacted so they could sneak as many big names as possible into this Saga. I'm gonna make my Rachelle Stick pretty soon. lol
I don't know.
They can dress her up and do her hair.. but I doubt she will go for plastic surgery.
And her face will just make me think of Lady in the Water.
No lie.
LOL thats exactly how it went down.
they just didnt predict the fan outrage.
those greedy bast*ards. =*(
really your not interested in it anymore. Maybe your not such a fan. It's about the books as long as they are true to them Who cares its not like they re cast a new Edward.
Ya, so enthusiastic she booked another film during the shooting of the movie that she has the most scenes of the series. Not so much. So far as Im concerned she's the one who let the fans down
I don't hate Summit at all….. This is a business and sometimes things happen. I am just as excited for Eclipse with BDH as Victoria. I liked Rachelle a lot; however, there are two sides to every story and whether we like it or not… there is a new Victoria. I'm over it and I just want to see Eclipse brought to life on film.
hahahaha lmfao thanks for the great idea
*gets stick and glue* now, all i need to do is find a pic of rachel…
my other querry is, how are they going to make bryce look as amazing as rachel would have in that movie?!?!
and yea, i cried about my old wolf boys too…
yeah… i feel bad for her too, but i also LEGIT don't like her as an actress. who knows though… i mean, they had this controversy about taylor until we all petitioned to keep him. maybe they will change their minds about rachel.
Do you remember what happened when they were about to start filming New Moon? They wanted to replace Taylor Lautner because he was not the right size for Jacob as a werewolf… Don't you remember? And what happened??? Was he replaced??? Well, of course they thought it twice because Taylor is one of the main characters of the story and somewhat managed to make things work for him to continue in this franchise. Rachelle's case is not the same. But, she was important for the story and it would have been great if she had been able to finish what she started, for the story's sake. Now, when we rush to the cinema to see the film (because most of us will) it will be awkward to see somebody else playing Victoria in Eclipse … don't you think?
As regards Summit…. I truly believe that they give a d*mn about what fans think about their choice of Bryce to play Victoria. It's always been about the money, and they've make loads!
Exactly these's movies are not made because of Rachelle! I'm not going miss Esclipse just because Summit screwed her over or visa versa. It will be weird not seeing her as Victoria but come on I'm sure Bryce can do just as good.
*gasp*
are you f**king kidding me, GREY face?
You base your ASSumption off of one comment about me not being as interested in the movie now..
I don't know about you, but I have read all 4 books and the pre-draft of Midnight Sun. I have read Twilight 4 times, New Moon 4 times, Eclipse SIX times and Breaking Dawn 2 times.
You seriously sit there and judge me as a fan because I am not as interested in the movie?
I never said I lost all interest. I simply stated that I am not AS interested.
Rachelle MADE Victoria. Rachelle gave birth to her and will help her grow through out New Moon. For another actress to take her spot at this point changes who Victoria is and how I see her.
No, they aren't casting a new Edward.. but Rachelle IS the face of Victoria.
How can I enjoy a movie from a book that I absolutely love when every time I see the villain I will think of Lady In The Water? (horrible movie….. horrible. That is how I see Bryce … Howard… Sorry Bryce)
Have you ever thought about the fact that Twilight the movie was barely like the book? Maybe Slade will do the same.. Make Eclipse how he sees it – not how it is.
Thanks, GREY face… Thanks for your attempt.
But next time.. do a little got damned research before you try to accuse someone of not being a fan because of their choice in regards to a movie that is based off of a book (movies from books are very rarely the same)
And BTW..
Since I'm not such a fan.. Maybe I should cancel my $1,500 trip to Vancouver to go to the scenes from New Moon and Eclipse. Ya know… Because I am not a fan.
*slams door in StephanieDJ's face*
Haha.
Summit is very selfish
I completely agree with you about director switches.
I think there is a need for different directors for different feels.
Twilight – kinda childish (perfect. a doped director – h whatever her name is)
New Moon – more adult orientated… (great, Weitz)
Eclipse – getting darker… (awesome a dark director – slade)
Breaking Dawn – all out nasties. Haha, jokes. More of an adult book – more going on (so… experienced director!)
With her movie Barneys Version only needing just ten days of her commitment I really think that she thought it wasn't going to be that conflicting with Eclipse. So i think she meant no harm really.
lol
yes but when you re-cast a character it takes the essence away of the book which is disapointing to the fans..
also think about the people who don't read the books, they would probably be even more angry
it just confuses the situation and ruins the movie and book
and if your not truely angry about this, then maybe your not a true twilight fan
*pours great wine for the fallen wolf boys* They will be missed….
They are gonna have to make her look like a knock out times two. Because I've seen a picture of Rachelle from New Moon and I was scared. That girl looked feral.
oh i lived vicariously through you during that rant!!! well done *applauds*
and is it just me are are there sooo many grey faces these days? are they just trying to stir us!?
and eclipse is my FAVE book of the saga! so u offically are my go to gal for all things eclipse lol
I want to see it more. I am so pissed that choosing another role over the one she so called 'was passionate about' came to the back burner. Truth be told, I think she got too full of herself and thought the industry would bend over backwards for her. Kristin, Robert, Peter as well as other cast members have filmed other projects and made sure their scheduals worked for the Twilight Saga filming. To say that Summit fired her on puropse is just mind numbing. It makes no sense. They let her go for a reason and I think their reason is legit.
Haha, *wipes sweat from brow*
Whew. That took a lot of wind.
Thanks for the applause. Wasn't sure what people would think after that.. but I had to put that grey face in place. Who is she (A GREY FACE) to judge me? (A VERIFIED ACCOUNT WITH DAILY ACTIVITY)
And she says I'm not a fan. *rolls eyes*
Yeah. A lot of grey faces are popping up…. Trying to start random things… not cool @ all.
Eclipse = my heaven. Haha. I love it.
Its such a great story, and I have quoted it many times *blush*.
It is amazing and so many great things happen in it
*high 5* for Eclipse faves!
i dont think i follow u if u have twitter…? add me? i have the smae name here and there
Even if the reason is legit, I still won't see Victoria when I look @ Bryce..
Haha..

I just have Twitter so that Peter would win the bet
I don't use it much (well.. at all lol).
Nmm.org is my home
*gasp* you have NO idea how many vamp gals are living it up in the uncensored world of twitter!!! join and just watch our convos if u dont want to join in…but its SO fun!! and dirty….
please come
(disqus wont let me follow the thread to reply to your post beloww. so here it is! LOL)
I know i know.. it DOES take a genius to come up with such deadly weapons!
WHATEVER CHICKEN IS LEFT OVER, USE IT TO CHUNK AT THEIR HEADS!
*falls into defensve vampire crouch with you*
ALRIGHT SUMMIT WATCH OUT! WE'RE COMIN! lol.
everyone! sharpen those tooth picks and lick those sporks clean!
HEY!! DONT EAT THE LEFT OVER CHICKEN! LOL.
{btw; im most def. following you xD your fun ! LOL)
Apparently… em.org doesn't work on Disqus yet.. wow.
Haha. Did you say Dirty?
I sent you a request. Lol!
Thanks for the invite ^^
Perhaps but that's not the point. If Rachelle had no schedual conflict then I am sure Summit would not have replaced her. Period. It wouldn't make sense for them to replace her if there were no reason. With Taylor there was. Rachelle was hoping for some bending and tweeking in her schedual and showbiz is showbiz. If she cannot complete the tasks she was given she gets fired. That's the same for any employment job. If you worked at Burger King and couldn't make it to work for ten days even though you were schedualed and you knew it before hand, bye bye. Acting isn't any different and if the people on this board cannot see that then sorry. Those who say, 'I'm not going to watch this movie now' are lying out of their butt holes. You know, at some point, they will no matter how they feel.
Okay..
What I said was that I won't see Victoria when it is Bryce playing it.
Whatever reason Rachelle isn't in it anymore is the reason. It doesn't matter.
All I am saying is that I can't see anyone but her as Victoria.
They have built her up the last two movies (well I assume they did for New Moon)
THANK YOU! I completly agree. Harry Potter is a prim example of different Directors and each movie got better and different with each mood.
Rachelle knew what she was doing and knew that she would run into issues. She is just suffereing the consequences.
They kept Taylor because he worked hard and proved to Chris Wiess that he wanted the role. He stood up and worked his butt off for months to get in shape. Rachelle and Taylor are not even close to being in the same situation. He worked hard for his role, she wanted other work and because of it, she is now fired. I don't feel sorry for her.
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Let' attack SUMMIT LATER!!!
Right now we're having an all-out party over in the Jacob Black hot wallpaper post.. bring a swimming suit if you'd like. but it's on the Pemberly lawn.. well lit with lanterns.. has a slip n' slide, drinks, and VAmps are SO totally welcome!!
*grabs hand* Come ON!!! I'll race you to the Pool!!
LOL
Love your name by the way
What I was saying was that it was Rachelle who decided to take on work that conflicted with her Twilight Saga schedual. Why should you miss out when she was the one who was in the wrong? It is your choice not to see the film but it happens all the time: Charlie's Angels, Three's Company, Law and Order: SVU, just to give some examples. They may be shows but shows have just as strong a following.
Victoria shouldn't have that big of a role in New Moon. In fact, she doesn't even speak in the book. She lurks around to see if she can find the best way possible to get Bella. It's Ecplise that she has a large role. She really shouldn't have had much of a role in Twilight but movies tend to change fiction to make it more realistic on screen.
Maybe Summit will be able to work out the schedual. Who knows. I just won't let Rachelle's piss poor choices to influence my decision to see the movie. It's my favorite book out of the four. Rachelle or not, ECLIPSE HERE I COME!
LMAO…i say dirty and she comes a following!!
LOL. Don't give anymore incentive. XD
haha. That was just an excuse. You said please come lol. How do you say no to a fellow twilight team vamp lover? You dont. Lol.
i actually have 2 accts in twitter cos i keep getting thrown into twitter jail(when u post too much in one hr twitter locks u out) so accept my request…
Lol, it actually says “_JAIL”… wow that is special!
I added both. Sorry for the delay. I had to take care of the real world for an hour . lol
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Let's face it people – Summit won't take Rachelle back. They've already announced the new actress. And it we all think about it for a moment, Summit is purely a business. They're not going to care if we protest or whatever, they know curiosity will take us all to go and see each and every movie, doesn't matter if David Slade makes a total flop of Eclipse or not.
I totally agree with you…100%. Of course Summit wants the support of the fans and the truth is Rachelle has it. I believe in my heart that Rachelle would NEVER make such a decision. Twilight has not only launched Rachelle's career, but the rest of her fellow cast members as well. I am interested to hear if they have anything to say about this issue. I bet that Summit has contacted each of the them and put so sort of fear in them. This statement Summit made is TOO fishy, especially the quick recast!
I am BEYOND annoyed by this and I can only imagine the emotions Rachelle is going through. This is NOT fair to her! This is the last film she will be in for the saga! Let the fans have the Victoria they want. WE WANT RACHELLE! SHE IS VICTORIA!
I saw Twilight 8 times in theaters! All I can say now is that once all the films are completed, I will NEVER support a SUMMIT PICTURE AGAIN!!!
I like how fans that are acting childish keep saying how summit is being childish. Pot, meet kettle.
how are fans acting childish??? how was my comment childish?? care to elaborate a bit…
I agree. Only the readers knew it was Sam Uley, everyone who did not read the book did not even realize. I had to keep informing my husband who everyone was and what pieces were missing.
Plus, are movies totally true to the book? Edward and Bella never even said I love you to each other in the film. The Volturi and Jasper gift was never mentioned. This is why readers perfer the book better.
I agree with you all…something is fishy here. Eclipse is Victoria's moment to SHINE, it is her biggest part yet and pulls together essential parts of the story in many aspects. Summit just looks bad right now…as if they are trying to cover up the fact that they decided to throw in a “name” all of a sudden. Which is what I think we all have been worried about.
However, I am a Twilight junkie and I will go see Eclipse as you all will too…when it comes down to it for me Twilight= Edward + Bella +Jacob+ The Cullens…I know it won't be the same and when the final fight scene comes out on the big screen in Eclipse it will lack a lot of the emotional connection that we have to Victoria. I just pray that when Breaking Dawn comes around EVERYONE that has been in the 3 will also follow up on the last because that would be a MAJOR suckfest.
I have to have faith in Summit though and hope that whatever the mess is that they continue to stay true and faithful to our beloved story:)
Also just throwing this out there…What is up with DAVID SLADE? Is he a fan or not? WTF? I feel like he has had a lot of bad press…and I wish he would release a letter like Chris did…embrace us…we are the driving force behind this cash cow. Alright done.
You took my words and covered all the facts. I applaude you and I lean towards Rachelle as well. I hope Summit is seriously reconsidering their decision, or else they're letting billions of fans down. I mean, so what if she signed a contract to a new film as well – she's just beginning to get a career and she has to ride the wave that the twilightsaga brought her. She has to to other films and jobs as well and I bet she would'nt do anything to let the fans and Summit down on purpose. Summit is a well established company and they should just know that, not treating her like trash and replace her in a few seconds. That's my opinion anyway.
I know that Mike is not important, what i meant is that summit isnt interested in our feelings, what they are interested is in their money and making us happy means more money for them…that´s why they say they try their best for the fans…bla,bla, bla…anyway I´m sorry for Rachelle but as far as I know the lawyers are talking…where is stephenie, please?
Although I am really upset that Rachelle is not returning to finish what she began as Victoria, if she really committed to another movie shooting in Europe, it seems that she was betting Summit was not serious about their shooting schedule. These movies have been shot on such fast, tight schedules, it should not have been a surprise to her or her management that they would not bend on it. I wonder whether she got some bad advice from her manager on this one? I don't see Bryce as a tough Victoria the way Rachelle has been, but I hope that Rachelle does well in her career from this point on. She really brought such mischief that I felt made the character better to Twilight! I am now stamping my foot and pouting about it. I will still go see the movie.
lol ditto. but let's not even get me started on the person who DID write the screen play! LMAO!
So basically it comes down to Summit reaching out to pocketbooks and wallets not belonging to Twihards. They put in a recognizable mainstream actress to attract people other than Twilight fanatics. Summit, it's those fanatics that put you on the map.
What's next? Brad Pitt, Sandra Bullock, Katherine Heigl …
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b136912_eclipse...
what pic are you talking about?
*hurredly googles*
could u send me the link to it please?? i wanna see the true victoria
You obviously do not know Hollywood and how it can work at times. All of the things that you stated could never happen – happen all the time. I would say that each side is representing the situation the way they want it to be viewed. Both sides are most likely lying about something.
BTW – Twihards are going to watch ALL the movies whether Rachel in them or not. You don't think Summit understands this?
yes they kept taylor cuz he proved he could handle the role. but you honestly believe that rachel would risk the BIGGEST role in her career for in INDIE film??!?!
seriously, rachel would never consciously book a movie during eclipse: besides the amount of money she would lose, she knows she would dissappoint fans worldwide
she wouldn't do that: she's not stupid! i think she was prepared to take both roles, but summit wanted a new face, so they booted her out.
Summit really messed up. They were almost stupid enough to recast taylor and now rachelle,who’s next? These charters make the movie saga what it is. No one should show up to new moon on opening day, will show them who really makes twilight!!!!!!THE FANS!!!!!!!!!!
Hmm…..do I know you? Do you know me? I don't think so. I know Hollywood and how it works. I know it well. Thank you for your arrogant assumption.
However whether or not I, as you state it, 'know Hollywood' or not, people are intelligent. And in this WW web saturated world we live in you don't have to work in Hollywood to understand Hollywood. Everything I've posted, and you obviously didn't read all of the posts, are my thoughts based upon what I know. I've never said one side is lying and the other telling the complete truth. I've never said fans won't go see the movie if Rachelle (please at least get the name right) isn't in it, and I've never stated that Summit is ignorant of this. I ask that if you disagree with my thoughts or opinions, then just state that instead of making erroneous judgements in a rude manner.
Even still she should have checked with Summit before accepting a role in another project that requires she be totally unavailable for 10 days. Other actors filmed other movies mid New Moon and there was no conflict there so Summit is obviously willing to work with people given he appropiate notification. And if she ASSUMED it wouldn't be a problem…well you know the saying about assuming. Dumb move on her/her agents part imop.
One time I didn't go to work and I got recast too.
WRITE TO SUMMITS YOUTUBE!!! http://www.youtube.com/SummitScreeningRoom
Summit is losing it. It is obvious they do not respect the books or the fans. I am boycotting all Summit merchandise.
You're wrong. Rachelle would never have done that. If you have been reading the fan sites for the past year, you would know that and understand that. They screwed her over plain and simple. They got caught. They need to make amends. Or they will lost money. We have the power to make them lose ALOT of money.
I think this is BS! She would never do that. She was too loyal to the fans, and to being involved in the Twilight series. They told her dates, and then they changed them on her. She was set up.
Summit sucks. Eclipse is my favorite book of the series and I have a trip to go to Vancouver as well during filming, but I am ready to cancel it all. You just don't treat people that way.
So since you are such a Harry Potter fan. How would you like Bryce Dallas Howard to play Bellatrix LaStrange in The Deathly Hallows? It's just a part right? Helena Bonham Carter isn't really that great… and just an actress.
No biggie!
See the point now? You have someone who has created a role, and then suddenly you have this other person in their for the most important book of that character. It doesn't work.
Let me just say…. we may still all go see it. But will we go see it 8 or 9 times like we did Twilight to make sure it made enough money to have sequels done? Maybe not. See it once. Then they don't make the same amount of money, and we as fans make a statement. Summit needs to be loyal to the people who kept them from bankruptcy. They treat their employees and the fans like shit. They need to be taught a lesson, and the best way to prove it is through the pocket book!
Maggie, she would do well as Maggie
You are absolutely right!!!
You are absolutely right!!!
It's not a huge picture, but it's on the NM official website.
She looked so nice I saved the picture. link: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q282/dreamer...
First off, don't respond to someone's post if you think it's BS. Second, if she was so loyal to fans she would have chose the project not changing the dates on her. There comes a point where you have to choose. If her project is changing the dates on her and she knows for sure when New Moon will be filming then it is her responsibility to say, 'If you guys want me to do this project then you need to set a date and stop changing it so I can notify Summit.' If the date they choose doesn't work for her schedual then she had to decide. She chose to film the other movie and in doing so would have set Summit back ten days.
All you haters for Summit don't seem to realize or care that it's a business that runs on scheduals. If they push back dates, they have to gather new contracts, pay for new permits. No business is going to do that for a small role like Rachelle has. Sure her role is bigger in Eclipes but it was her choice to wait to tell Summit her availability until the last second. Summit didn't fire her, she fired herself.
Absolutly. If the actress didn't commit to what she signed on for then I say get the steppin. I want someone who cares just as much about the film as I will and if she would rather take on another role that changes the dates and hurts her chances of meeting her deadlines, which in turn will make me wait longer for the film then you bet I want her out.
I do understand that a lot of people are having a hard time imagining someone else playing Victoria other then Rachelle but what you all are overlooking is that it's her fault she got fired. You all want to blame Summit for sticking to their shedual and that doesn't sit well with me. Rachelle is the one at fault here and yet she has fans backing her up because they can't imagine anyone playing Victoria? She got the idea that Summit should bend over backwards to accomidate her just because she's an actress but she got the boot. I say GO SUMMIT! I'm tired of snoozy actresses thinking they can get anything they want because they are on the big screen. It's not all about you hunny. You have fans depending on you. Commit to what you signed on for but instead she disappointed.
BTW: Helena is a great actress and would never screw up a role for something else. She's not so full of herself that she would let her fans down
so freaking true girl! bryce, she will never be better than Rachelle! Do you want to start a petition wih me?
Join the red ribbon campaign: write a letter of protest to Summit and enclose a red ribbon (red for eclipse red for victoria's hair). Here is the address: Summit entertainment. 1630 Stewart Street Suite 120. Santa Monica, CA 90404. United States Phone: 310-309-8400
u r absolutely rite
Sorry but I have to agree with the studio. As a lay person, if I have a conflict with work, I have to give my employer as early notice as possible. My employer may or may not agree with what I have to do and they have the right to accept my agreement or fire me. That's life. I don't think she's totally innocent in this; I still think she could have planned ahead and communicated more closely with the Studio before committing to something else. I would have preferred seeing her play Victoria as well but she made a choice that she now has to live with. She's a talented actress and she said she had turned down lots of work so I'm sure she'll be okay.
I completely agree with you. I think Rachelle made this mess herself. Yeah, Summit might have been able to work things out but if they have certain scenes that they are filming those ten days that require her to be there then Summit doesn't really have a choice. I mean personally I would hate to have Summit push back dates and have to wait longer for Eclipse. Waiting for New Moon is killing me enough!
I know she was loyal and passionate about her role, however you can't have your cake and eat it too. I loved her as Victoria and I think that it will change the movie but I think we should give Bryce a chance. You never know… some people didn't want Rob as Edward but look how amazing he turned out!! I think Bryce will bring something different to the role of Victoria. If Summit and Rachelle can work it out then great! If not.. lets not hate on Bryce because she was given a great oppurtunity and she took advantage of it. I think if Rachelle really wanted this role than she would find a way to get out of the new movie that she is wanting to do. But thats just my opinion. Please don't hate.
Interesting reply considering you have no idea what transpired. You sure you don't work for Summit? They are working very hard at digging themselves out of the hole they created, and this kind of an e-mail sounds very choreographed in the studios favor.
BTW… If Helena did schedule another movie due to an error on the studio giving her the wrong dates… Warner Brothers would have made accomodations for her. Because, they value their employees. And, they know she is irreplacable.
So it's only ok to respond if I agree with you? RIGHT! As if!.
You sure do know alot about production schedules. Sounds again…. like you work for Summit and they are so busy doing damage control right now that their heads are all spinning harder than Linda Blair's in the exorcist!
Just an FYI. I saw Rachelle and other cast members at the Vampire baseball event in Oregon on July 4th. She was gracious and generous with the fans and talking about how much she values the role. She knows this is her big break. She wouldn't have double booked unless there was a screw up.
Now since Both Rob and Kristen are currently filming other films (Remember Me, and The Runaways) if their production schedules get delayed for whatever reason and they are not able to full fill their start dates with Eclipse….. Are you saying that to not lose money Summit should replace them?
Fat Chance….. They would never do it. And they should keep the integrity of the original cast. What do you think they should do so we actually accept Bryce Dallas Howard. Maybe Victoria was in a terribly disfiguring car wreck where her car burst into flames and she had to have reconstructive surgery. When they remove the bandages…. it's Bryce rather than Rachelle. Yes… that would work, except….. They're Vampires! They can't be destroyed that way.
Ludicrous!
I thought that was supposed to be Embry? And that Sam was the one that said: “The Cullens don't come here.” ?
I don't get it though.. Why would Sam be with Embry and Jake?
o.O
“edit”: It says that Sam Uley was played by Solomon Trimble, so it was Embry(aka Chris) that answered Mike; “You got that right!”
*adjusts halo*
You are more then welcome to disagree with me but do it in a respectful way. Calling my idea BS isn't respectful. I never called what you had to say BS. It's respect. If you can't respect other posters and their ideas then why post at all? That's all I am saying.
I have a friend that works for a production company, i'm not saying which one, and she shed some light on the situation for me because at first I was just as upset at Summit as the rest of you. I know that Kristen and Rob are working on their movies right now but Remeber Me that Rob is working on is coming to a close and Kristen's movie is just about done filming as well. Their projects won't interfere with the filming of Eclipes.
Replacing Rachelle has already been done and nothing anyone says or does at this point can fix that. Summit may have worked things out with Rachelle had this decision been handled more maturly. By going to the press and making a statment about her situation and not giving both sides to the story, Rachelle pretty much screwed her chances of making it back to Forks.
I am sorry that all of the fans are upset but again they are upset at the wrong person. Summit may have given her the ax but Rachelle chopped off her own head when she a) didn't give them a set time to film her other movie and b) went public about the situation and not telling the entire story as to what happened. She just made Summit look like the bad guys.
I like Rachelle. I have met her before and she did seem like she was looking forward to filming Eclipse but that doesn't mean she didn't screw up somewhere along the lines. It's no different then being excited about going to Disneyland and then woops I failed my Math test so now I can't go. There are requirments that she didn't meet and in showbiz, you have to follow through. Maybe if Kristen and Rob where in the same situation they may have not been fired but they are the main characters. Rachelle's part isn't a major role. She can easily be replaced, as was what happened and she has no one to blame for that but herself.
I completly agree. Bryce is a great actress. I have seen her in films like Big Fish, Lady in the Water, and other really great movies. I think she could do a great job as Victoria and she shouldn't be blamed for choosing a great role. Even if she did back out then Summit would simply choose another actress. Rachelle, at this point, is not an option.
OMG my friend…… you just lost all credibility you had. You just admitted that you are affiliated with “a production company but you won't say which one” ….. let's guess? SUMMIT.
Bottom line, they fired her without even letting her know properly. They got caught. The fans are 80/20 siding with Rachelle. We can hurt Summit for such a poor way to treat people. In the pocket book. We can definitely hurt their bottom line, and their profit level and refuse to buy merchandise. Thanks for affirming that we are right to stand with Rachelle. You just made our case so much stronger. You can continue replying all you want, but you lost all credibilitiy and respect. You earn respect my dear, and you haven't earned it.
Sorry.
LOL! I wish I were affiliated with Summit. I would go public and put all of this doubt crap to rest. By keeping the talk between the lawyers, more and more anger and doubt continues to get worse. It needs to be put to rest because all of this he said she said crap is getting on one anywhere. I cannot say which production company because I was asked not to. Rest assured it's not Summit.
Relax.
They fired her properly. She went public about the situation and ended up screwing any chances of re-negotiation. Summit is in no way going to be hurt over this situation. They make millions of dollars on Twilight alone. Anytime you buy a t-shirt that has Robert as Edward on it, Summit makes money. Anytime you watch Twilight or New Moon on HBO, Summit makes money. They won't hurt one bit over the role change. Sure a lot of fans are upset but I can bet my last dollar that by next month, no one will be talking about this and even if they are, no one will care much dear.
My credibility and respect is still here. You may not like what I have to say but I will post and give my opinion as a fan all I want. I can't pursuade you or change your mind but that still won't stop me. Sorry
She probaly thought since other people filmed in new moon that it wouldnt be a problem if she asked or not. And they say you shouldn't assume but people say we shouldn't do alot of things and we still don't listen. Sometimes we don't think about things before we do them but thats just people overall so anyways i don't feel let down as a fan i kinda feel bad for her.
We can continue to assume what she thought or felt all we want. But the facts have been made pretty clear that she (or her people) screwed up pretty big and she lost the job.
If Summits statement is true (and lets face it if they lied they'd be facing a pretty big lawsuit from the actress herself) then I'm going to say there was most likely some breech of contract and that's why they decided to replace her. I doubt it was an on-the-fly decision by the studio.
I'm not saying I don't want her to portray Victoria–I think she did a great job in Twilight and it will be weird to have another actress portray Victoria in the 3rd movie. But when you make careless mistakes/decisions there are consequences no matter how innocent the intent behind them.
You can read MTV's take on it at: http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/07/30/rachelle-l... and get both sides (Summit and Lefevres).
“They told her dates, and then they changed them on her. She was set up.”
Where is this fact posted b/c I have yet to read it. Thanks!
Just because “She was gracious and generous with the fans and talking about how much she values the role. She knows this is her big break.” doesn't mean she (or her people) can't make a mistake.
Then bring it up with the person that made the mistake–Rachelle. SHE's the reason that we know have this other chick playing HER role.
yea i agree with you but what im saying is I don't feel let down by her. Yes she could have handled it better but mistakes happen so I don't blame her.
I couldn't agree with you more! I do not enjoy movies that change their actors. I just cringe when I see a new person playing a role that belonged to someone else.
Summit should realize how important these movies are to the fans. Summit and Rachelle should come to some kind of agreement so that she can finish out her role as Victoria.
Do you know Rachelle? Like on a personal level? Because you sure are making negative comments about her. You say that you are associated with a production company (but won't say which one), so that leads me to believe that you also only have one side of the story. For all anyone knows, there was an issue on BOTH sides and both parties are to blame!
I'm not saying that is the case. Rachelle and her people and Summit know what happened. The rest of us get bits and pieces. So we shouldn't assume it is one parties fault or another unless WE WERE INVOLVED IN THE DISPUTE FIRST HAND!
And for the record, I am a huge fan of the books and the movies. I am also very upset about the cast change because the character will not be the same. No matter what anyone says, it does change the movie. It may not happen, but I think for the fans' sake, Summit and Rachelle should work it out. Remember, the point of making the movie is for the fans to enjoy.
I'm new to the board. . . and new to protesting production companies. What is Summit's contact info? Email, address, whatever? I'd like to send an email or a letter too!
Oh and one more thing.
Can you explain to the rest of us who are not aligned with a production company how in the heck they got a well known actress contracted and signed in eight days? For someone who is not aligned with a production company, signing on another actress sounds like it could be time consuming what with SCHEDULING ISSUES, salary negotiations, and what not.
So why is it that Summit hired on a new actress and did not at least TRY to work things out with Rachelle?
Since you associate yourself with a production company, I was hoping that you would be able to answer those very important questions?
It is sooooo Rachels fault. What was she thinking??? A new movie? Who cares about Barney! Its all about Twilight!!!! She should've talked to summit waaay sooner. I never liked her anyway but she was cast in the beginning and now she wont be in Ecplipse! IT's true what they said about her not being devoted! Stupid ho
I don't get it either.. I guess we can blame Catherine Hardwicke for that one!
I agree. I'm not interested in seeing eclipse anymore. I think summit is making excuses. I don't believe they weren't told about the other engagement. Not to mention, Ron Howard always seems to get his way, If they were going to recast victoria, they should have used a no name. I'm so sick of Ron Howard and His daughter. I'm boycotting all Ron Howard films, All of his daughters films, and all of davids films, also I will not go to see Eclipse, also sorry summit, but if you ruin this film for me, I'm done watching Summit movies. I've had it with studio execs, who think they can do whatever they want, and we'll just watch it anyway. Not going to happen this time. I spend to much money on entertainment to put up with it any longer. Plus is it just me or does bryce look much older than Rachelle? I think summit could have made a much better choice. I'm sorry Summit, but Ten Days? You could have found a way to work around it. We've been reading the articles on how new moon has been filmed. I understand that many parts were worked around and filmed in secondary locations. Come on summit get creative with the green screen. You could make the schedule work for Rachelle. I am so deeply disappointed.
I will not go to see it at the theatre. and trust me its not just 1 ticket they are losing at the box office. I have 4 daughters that are also twi-junkies. If we all wait to watch it on dvd-they lose the box office money. I will not go to theatres to see it. This is why the studio execs pull this crap. Cause they figure, even though we aren't happy about theirs choices, we're going to go watch it anyway. Not only did they just lose my money at the box office for eclipse, i'm not going to go see new moon either. big whoop. I'll only have to wait three months to watch it on dvd.
It would be interesting to see if that is the case-Ron Howard, Director for Breaking Dawn. The conclusion of the “Twilight” saga that may be either broken down to 2 or 3 movies…….you know what the message boards will be like it that shit hits the fan???
INTERESTING that “crystalkc” can say its Rachelle's mistake….HELLO Rachelle has been in the entertainment business for 10 YEARS and I'm pretty confident that she knows how to read her contract AND clearly see in WRITING in her contract what her restrictions are.
I can see that you have no other comments about the other cast members that took roles in other movies that, YES overlapped with “Eclipse” filming.
Rachelle was dropped like a hot potato to add a director's daughter into the action because daddy dearest just MAY be the director of “Breaking Dawn”.
Summit keeps on coming out with statements, which just shows that whenever someone keeps on wanting to explain into details about their actions, is a sign of a “cover-up”, “guilt”, and “they fucked up”!
Yeah your right on 1-thing only…Rachelle & Taylor situations are totally different but at least Chris Weitz made his 1st priority when he took on the role as director for New Moon, was to the Twilight Fans AND what is best for the movie.
Apparently Summit 1st priority was to get Bryce Howard in the movie and save money…screw the Twilight Fans and whats best for “Eclipse” because no matter what they do to these movies, SUMMIT KNOWS that the fans will suck it up and still see the movies…bringing in millions of dollars for Summit.
Again, you keep mentioning that Rachelle wanted other work and thats why she got fired. Uumm ok, so the other casts members (and yes its “casts” because there is MORE than one) who took “other work” that overlapped the “Eclipse” schedule was able to keep their roles in “Eclipse” because WHY??? Is it because the other casts are BIGGER & WELL KNOW stars in the movie industry and Rachelle is what “small potatoes” so her accepting another job while following her contract is wrong in Summit's eyes??
And your comment about “Burger King”…. WHERE EVER you work; either in fast food, in an office, or for a freakin' huge corporation-when an employee works his/her butt off, go above & beyond for that company, show up for work every day, and follow procedures and company rules, that company will see what a valuable employee you are and will work with you to get the “time off”. There are companies out there that will actually sit with an employee who has proven to be an asset to them and work things out.
I think it is a bullshit if you ask me. I am extremely disappointed that Summit let Rachelle go, and she was so quickly replaced with Ron Howard's daughter of all people. Who are they kidding? Like this wasn't political in anyway!!! First of all Ron Howard's daughter should stick to her father's movies, she isn't that hard up for a job, and two Rachelle made the role of Victoria!!! I don't want to even see the movie now. Very upsetting that they would change actors like that. Give me a break, I just hope true Twilight fans stand up and ban together in protest to fight for Rachelle!!!!!
“Truth be told.. Twilight Fans are EXTREMELY passionate about the story and EXTREME in numbers. NO other movie has a chance in outshining the amount of cash this series is making (and will make).”
hahahahaha good god are you naive. I love Twilight myself but to say that no other movie has a chance in outshining the amount of money the series is making is about one of the most idiotic things I ever heard. furthermore its downright free from reality.
May I remind you that there are dozens of movies which made more money than Twilight did? Twilight made about 300 million worldwide. All Harry Potter movies made at least twice as much,as did all the Star Wars movies,Spider-Man 1-3,Pirates 2 and 3 and I dont even start talking about the ones who broke the one billion barrier (Dark Knight,return of the King,Titanic)
Man are you deluded. I am a big fan of Twilight but I would never be ever so deluded to say that there is no movie out there who would ever make more money than Twilight.
New Moon will make about 400 or 500 million the highest,Eclipse could make 500,maybe 600 but thats pushing it. If they do a Breaking Dawn movie (and if they do they really must change the ending for it to become a successful movie) it will gross about 400-600 million.
With that very realistic calculation still dozens of movies will be more successful then everyone of the twilight films (Harry Potter,Star Wars,Transformers,Titanic,Lord of the Rings,Dark Knight,Pirates,Spider-Man…)
So please being a fan and showing your love for Twilight is really cool – but do it in a realistic way that is not total fiction will you?
“Truth be told.. Twilight Fans are EXTREMELY passionate about the story and EXTREME in numbers. NO other movie has a chance in outshining the amount of cash this series is making (and will make).”
hahahahaha good god are you naive. I love Twilight myself but to say that no other movie has a chance in outshining the amount of money the series is making is about one of the most idiotic things I ever heard. furthermore its downright free from reality.
May I remind you that there are dozens of movies which made more money than Twilight did? Twilight made about 300 million worldwide. All Harry Potter movies made at least twice as much,as did all the Star Wars movies,Spider-Man 1-3,Pirates 2 and 3 and I dont even start talking about the ones who broke the one billion barrier (Dark Knight,return of the King,Titanic)
Man are you deluded. I am a big fan of Twilight but I would never be ever so deluded to say that there is no movie out there who would ever make more money than Twilight.
New Moon will make about 400 or 500 million the highest,Eclipse could make 500,maybe 600 but thats pushing it. If they do a Breaking Dawn movie (and if they do they really must change the ending for it to become a successful movie) it will gross about 400-600 million.
With that very realistic calculation still dozens of movies will be more successful then everyone of the twilight films (Harry Potter,Star Wars,Transformers,Titanic,Lord of the Rings,Dark Knight,Pirates,Spider-Man…)
So please being a fan and showing your love for Twilight is really cool – but do it in a realistic way that is not total fiction will you?
Eclipse ws my favorite book as well and I just totally agree with everything you said. I hate it when they change one of the main people, just because you become so accustomed to them and in your mind that original person will always be that character.
Eclipse ws my favorite book as well and I just totally agree with everything you said. I hate it when they change one of the main people, just because you become so accustomed to them and in your mind that original person will always be that character.
im extremely late, but, this is BULL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
summit is STUPID. point blank! they shouldve thought of the FANS, not on scheduling crap, not of time, not on whos fault it was. whos ever fault it was doesn't matter. they NEEDED to work things out and KEPT Rachelle with AT LEAST A WARNING!!!!!! i mean, COME ON!!!!!! this woulda been her last part in the saga anyway! they might as well have changed ALL the cast if they were going to change ONE. it was a horrible decision. and now Eclipse isnt going to be the same without Rachelle. and sure, Bryce might be good in the movie, and maybe good for the part, but NEVER, EVER as GREAT as Rachelle. we all have Rachelle's face and image set for Victoria. its like shes not even known as Rachelle anymore. shes Victoria now. Bryce will NEVER be known as Victoria but as the one who TOOK Victoria's place! sorry Bryce, but its true. i saw the Ecplise trailer and waited to see THE Victoria on the screen, but made me mad to see it wasnt her. i dont think Victoria suddenly becomes another face in the book, another figure. shouldn't have happened in the movie (in the VISUAL part) either.
i know i'm EXTREMELY late on this, but i had to let all of this out…
I have sat quietly through out all the name calling and dust flying just to see how fair it would take us. Sadly we ran in circles and did a lot of name calling but seemed to lose sight of what the real concern was as well as what we were truly arguing about. The issue at hand is was Rachelle Lefevre treated fairly by Summit when they let her go or was there some underhandedness going on and finally was there something that could have been do to keep her in EClipse as opposed to replacing her with Dallas Bryce Howard.
In the absolutely obvious sort of way we have grown to love/hate Rachelle because it is through her we watched our beloved villain come to life. She has made Victoria so real and brought her to life when DBH has done nothing more that picked up the well laid ground word RL has laid down. So of course we, true Twilight fans, are gong to be extremely upset that Summit has actually replaced a beloved component in our story.
I personal think that Summit could have done a million things to accommodate Ms. Lefevre's schedule and while they were willing to do it for some they,sadly aren't willing to do it for all. Summit is an inconsistent company that doesn't seem to have deserved the right to maintain the rights to the Twilight saga and there for huge mistakes were made, such as letting Lefevre go, the dispute of pay between Lutz, and Greene, and a few other issues. But we as truly fans will go on to watch the last 3 movies, just missing Ms. Lefevre and her wonderful role more than imaginable. (Yes I now this is the last movie she is in but you get my point)
As for the troll that hang around here to do nothing more than upset us. They are on every site and the best way to get them to go is to simply provide them with NO energy. They actually feed off our anger so it is easier to to just pretend like their destructive comments aren't around. I have had to learn this hard way. So while they are sitting at home typing “fake and gay” we are gaining friendships and companionships with other readers that share our love. Just don't answer them, they will get bored and move on. Just try not to feed the animals when they stop in and hopfully they will travel elsewhere to cause problems!
SHE NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN REPLACED. SHE WAS VICTORIA. BRYCE IS WAY TOO OLD TO PORTRAY THE PART. BUT SHE IS RON HOWARD'S DAUGHTER, SO THAT SAYS EVERYTHING!
HUGE mistake replacing Rachelle for Bryce, extremely disappointing I truly felt Victorias (RACHELLE) anger and pain in Twilight and New Moon felt NOTHING looking at Bryce as Victoria. Thanks a lot SUMMIT for wrecking the big moment between Edward and Victoria
If this happend to any other cast-members like Robert Pattinson or Kristen Stewart, then the company would work around the 10 day over-lap and give the actor a chance.
Summit didn't do that and instead replaced her for a stupid reason, 10 days is nothing! especially for a big, villainous role of Victoria. I think they simply replaced Rachelle for a bigger name like Bryce Dallas Howard, to attract more attention. Nothing else.